View Full Version : 5th Wheel Towing -- Ram 1500


farrelgs
12-18-2011, 04:04 PM
I have a 2011 Ram 1500 Quad (http://www.ramforumz.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=114177#) Cab 4 X 4 with the Big Horn Package. 5.7 Liter V8 HEMI with a 3.92 Rear Axle Ratio. The truck is equipped to tow 10200 lbs with a payload of 1610 lbs. The Box size = 6'4".

My question is, I want to pull a lite weight 5th Wheel trailer and want to know if anyone had experience with this or can give me Advice, Suggestions etc for me?

Thanks

GTyankee
12-18-2011, 05:02 PM
This will help you to understand what you can tow 5th wheel wise

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-trailer-weight-fw.shtml

They mislead you when they say 10,200 TOW weight
you have quite a bit of subtraction to do

it will come out to something like a 3,000 pound 5th wheel, but math is not my strong point

brad12kx
12-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Just remember, Payload includes -
1) Gas in tank
2) Driver
3) Passenger(s)
4) Cargo
5) Trailer PIN WEIGHT!!!

For 5th wheel trailer applications, a 3/4 or 1T in much better choice. :)

erm
12-18-2011, 08:05 PM
Shortbox 5'vr towing has it's own set of concerns besides just making sure you don't overload the truck or the trailer. Most shortbox trucks towing 5'vrs will use a Reese or other brand sliding hitch.

Sliding fifth wheel hitches are a must for towing a fifth wheel trailer with a short bed truck. Moving the hitch backward in the truck bed helps prevent damage to truck and trailer when backing and making tight turns. With a conventional fifth wheel hitch, tight turns could result in damage to the truck cab or the overhitch section of the trailer.

Here's some info you might find handy with respects to tow ratings:

http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/2010/docs/ram/rammlup1500.pdf

Here's some info on how to "do the math" of GVWR and what it means:

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-trailer-weight-tt.shtml

And here's a little bit about payload & towing capacity that may help you as well.

The best ways to insure you don't exceed the GVWR is to:

1. Know your truck numbers numbers - truck empty, truck full, GVWR, towing capacity, weight of a gallon of water, weight of a gallon of fuel, passenger load and any gear load weights.

2. Know your trailer numbers - trailer empty, trailer full, water capacity, propane weight, weight of gear you put in the trailer, etc.

3. Many folks do not put in fresh water until they get to, or are close to, their destination for the night. Then if they are moving on the next day, they drain most of it, leaving enough to keep the tank wet and have some water if they need to stop along the way.

Good luck!

moparguy62
12-19-2011, 07:04 PM
Listen who would buy these trucks if you can only tow 3k. You guys are misleading to say the least. The truck is rated to tow 10,200 the thats it. Then you have a GVCWR thats combined, then there is payload. Some guys say once youve placed 4 adults in the truck you can't put anything in the bed, REALLY then may as well get a car! Then you want to deduct for gas,oil, etc. I'd write the factory before listening to this stuff. If you buy a daulie by time you do the math the way these guy potray it you may have the capacity to tow a VW.

I tow a 7000lb 5ht wheel and don't exceed my GCVWR, and I don't over load my rear axle. I have a pullrite superglide 5th wheel. Truck pulls it fine, 10 lbs in the airbags and I'm still within limits.


This will help you to understand what you can tow 5th wheel wise

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-trailer-weight-fw.shtml

They mislead you when they say 10,200 TOW weight
you have quite a bit of subtraction to do

it will come out to something like a 3,000 pound 5th wheel, but math is not my strong point

GTyankee
12-19-2011, 07:25 PM
As i said, that math was from the website that i posted

If you look at this website, the calculations are different
it has a sliding bar for weight & then you insert number of people in the truck, this is for the 2009 models
http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/weight_to_vehicle_step2.jsp?year=9&weight=7000&passengers=4

brad12kx
12-19-2011, 11:14 PM
I have a 2011 Ram 1500 Quad (http://www.ramforumz.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=114177#) Cab 4 X 4 with the Big Horn Package. 5.7 Liter V8 HEMI with a 3.92 Rear Axle Ratio. The truck is equipped to tow 10200 lbs with a payload of 1610 lbs. The Box size = 6'4".

My question is, I want to pull a lite weight 5th Wheel trailer and want to know if anyone had experience with this or can give me Advice, Suggestions etc for me?

Thanks

Is it a 4x4, OR, is it equipped to tow 10,200lbs?
Do you have the 17" or 20" rims?

Listen who would buy these trucks if you can only tow 3k. You guys are misleading to say the least. The truck is rated to tow 10,200 the thats it. Then you have a GVCWR thats combined, then there is payload. Some guys say once youve placed 4 adults in the truck you can't put anything in the bed, REALLY then may as well get a car! Then you want to deduct for gas,oil, etc. I'd write the factory before listening to this stuff. If you buy a daulie by time you do the math the way these guy potray it you may have the capacity to tow a VW.

I tow a 7000lb 5ht wheel and don't exceed my GCVWR, and I don't over load my rear axle. I have a pullrite superglide 5th wheel. Truck pulls it fine, 10 lbs in the airbags and I'm still within limits.

There are number of things that 'Must' be confirmed before making any claims about what can be done while maintaining a legal towing combination. The first thing is determine if the OP is equipped to tow 10,200lbs, OR has a 4x4. In the 2011 model year, there is NO 1500 combination that allows for 10,200lb towing with a 4x4.

Failure to take all things into consideration is only a recipe for failure, and I am not about to say 'Yes it can tow it', until I have all the facts.

My 2010 1500 Ram 4x4 spends a lot more time with a 7000lbs trailer behind it then not. Although my truck is 'rated' to pull much more, my combination of payload and trailer takes me within 50lbs of being 'not legal'. If I want to pull more trailer, I will have to reduce the fuel in tank, or loose some weight, or move my tool bag to the trailer, etc, etc.

The rated max trailer towing weight is only available under certain conditions, and I am very anal about making 100% sure that ALL the conditions are within the rated and legal ratings. :)


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