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GeauxHunting 09-09-2012 11:23 PM

I need help with suspension components
 
Okay well I guys I had a little accident offroading.... I might have hit a ditch at night doing like 45mph down a trail. In my defense the grass was tall and you couldn't tell it was there. I was just trying to cut through to get to a field.

Anyways I brought my truck to a new shop and according to them I have the following issues.

1) Slipped belt in 1 tire others are getting low on tread. Replace all 4 tires mount and balance - $1,151.52

2) Both outer tie rod ends- $218.54

3) Both front shocks $145.74

4) Replace lower ball joints $533.28

5) Replace upper ball joints $713.79

For a grand total of $3,146.71 after tax... They called me and told me that and my response was, take my truck off the lift and don't touch it.

I am going to be doing almost all the work myself so I have a few questions for you guys. Which parts should I put on priority first. Like if you could put these parts in order from importance of replacement what would it be? hahah Also should I get greaseable tie rod ends or should I go with non greaseable?

As for the tires... I'm picking up a set of 35" toyo m/t for $400 once I get my leveling kit.

As of now I'm looking at getting moog upper control arm with ball joints and bushings 2 for $172 and probably moog tie rod ends

Thanks for all the help guys.

ChWelch 09-10-2012 11:21 AM

How many miles are on your truck?

Why are they saying you need all the parts? (besides the tires, you've already explained that part)

Generally speaking when a vehicle is ran into a ditch or something, you may bend a control arm or an inner tie rod end. Sounds more like maintence recommendations unless the ball joint ripped apart or was somehow damaged.

As far as the order of importance, that will depend on why the parts were recommended. if they are loose or where actaully damaged then they need to be replaced soon but if the boots were torn or something similiar to that, then they can wait. First priority would be the tires, if it comes apart is could cause more damage to the truck. The suspension parts are really best to do all at the same time since tou have to take it all apart to change the lower ball joints, might as well change the uppers and outter tie rod ends while your there. Be sure to get it realigned after you get done as well.

If you can find out why the recommended the parts, I can be a little more helpful. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

snrusnak 09-10-2012 12:48 PM

Get greasable as long as you will maintain it. Sealed is good for say 100k miles. Greasable will last damn near forever as long as you grease it every oil change or so.

Ball joints, tires, tie rod ends, then shocks. Shocks aren't really THAT important honestly. Do them last.

GeauxHunting 09-10-2012 01:04 PM

Thanks guys. I'm not sure if these problems are directly attributed to when I jumped the drainage ditch, but I brought it in for an alignment and they told me all this.

They say I need new tie rod ends because there is too much slack and new upper and lower ball joints because there is too much slack. They also said my shocks are very weak, but as of now I'm not really worried about them. I'm hoping to get bilstein adjustable shocks.

Ohh and my truck has 114,000 miles.

snrusnak 09-10-2012 01:08 PM

You can test all the parts yourself too.

Ball joints:
Lift the wheel slightly off the ground, put a tire iron between the tire and pavement and use it as a lever to "lift" the tire. If there is any play it's most likely a ball joint(could be wheel bearing also).

Shocks:
Push down on that corner of the car, over and over(get the car bouncing up and down) then suddenly stop and if the car continues to bounce a few times the shocks are bad. With good shocks when you stop bouncing it it should rise and not compress again.

Tie rod ends:
Feel for play in the wheel and crawl under and feel for play by hand. Also can try to turn the wheel with it off the ground(by hand...like you physically grab the tire and try to turn it) and if there is excessive play you should be able to feel it then.

GeauxHunting 09-10-2012 01:21 PM

Thanks Sean, you know anything about mevotech products? They tie rod ends are $25 a pop compared to moog $50

snrusnak 09-10-2012 01:22 PM

Not really sure on them. I do know MOOG is very good.

GeauxHunting 09-10-2012 01:41 PM

How hard is it to change the lower ball joints on my truck? I believe my ball joints are bolt on correct? Not pressed on.

snrusnak 09-10-2012 01:54 PM

I've never done them on a ram but usually you back off the nut then have to pry it apart. Takes some force usually. I've only done one set it was a PITA but probably just because I didn't really know what to do. I've watched my dad's mechanic friend do it and he did both sides in a couple hours, made it look easy. An impact helps a lot.

GeauxHunting 09-10-2012 01:58 PM

Yeah I might pass on doing the lowers myself. I'll just have to drive back home and get my mechanic to do it. I'm fairly confident on doing everything else. I've never done shocks on a coil over suspension so idk how that will go.


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