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GasHole 08-03-2013 08:31 PM

Grenade trans??
 
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I am considering several mods to my new 2013 Sport in the upcoming year, some of which include a ported 85mm throttle body, headers, and a tuner. But from reading and researching, it seems that the 'weak link' in this equation will be our stock tranny, which apparently starts to fail or have issues right at about the new, increased horsepower rating that these combined mods would produce. Any thoughts on this? I'd like to ramp up the power and torque, but not at the cost of grenading a stock trans......thanks. (Here's a pic...)

CdnoilRAM 08-03-2013 08:35 PM

Nothing you have listed there will put you in danger with the trans. The trans will hold between 400-450rwhp, and a stock engine is putting down about 300-340rwhp, so there is wiggle room. It only starts becoming an issue when you get up in numbers either with a stroker, nitrous, boost, or a combination thereof.

hydrex 08-03-2013 08:44 PM

I've sprayed enough nitrous to fill the GY Blimp. 402.5 rwhp on a Mustang dyno and 190,000 miles. Transmission has been flawless. Couple of my Chevy owning buddies have roached their transmissions with wimpy sbc motors.

Gantman 08-03-2013 08:58 PM

I would say, if you are only doing the big three(i.e., intake, exhaust, tuner), there is no reason you should have any doubt in the OE tranny. The bulk of the blown tranny's, I say again!, The bulk of failed tranny's is from severe abnormal use and abuse. It is not an HD transmission! Once again, IT IS NOT A HEAVY DUTY TRANSMISSION! It is strictly a light duty transmission as it was engineered and designed to be. Once you understand this about the 545/65RFE, YOU WILL BE A MUCH WISER MAN. IT IS NOT MADE for superchargers as most experienced here will gladly tell you. 17500 miles and tranny pulls strong enough with a full year of weekend boat hauling to the fishin spots, Haulin landscape materials for the yard, and the occasional washer, dryer, or refrigerator to friends and family. Normal use.........

Gantman 08-03-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hydrex (Post 1166994)
I've sprayed enough nitrous to fill the GY Blimp. 402.5 rwhp on a Mustang dyno and 190,000 miles. Transmission has been flawless. Couple of my Chevy owning buddies have roached their transmissions with wimpy sbc motors.

Oh man, here we go with the, "My buddies got a Ford or Chevy"! :LOL:

TaderzNgravy 08-03-2013 09:30 PM

I would say the lift/big tires combined with heavy towing or excessive burnouts will put your trans at risk the most. Also, your transmission will not "grenade", you'll just rub the friction material off of all of your OD clutches and possibly warp them causing your truck to lock in gear.

Ramlaw 08-03-2013 10:06 PM

I had a chevy 2500 hd tranny grenade at 20,000 mi. Never hauled anything or otherwise abused it. So either trannies be trippin from time to time, or allison sucks, or they're all complicated machines and it's either a good one or a bad one. If it's a bad one, nothing you do matters, but wait till the powertrain warranty is up.

GasHole 08-03-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramlaw (Post 1167037)
I had a chevy 2500 hd tranny grenade at 20,000 mi. Never hauled anything or otherwise abused it. So either trannies be trippin from time to time, or allison sucks, or they're all complicated machines and it's either a good one or a bad one. If it's a bad one, nothing you do matters, but wait till the powertrain warranty is up.

Well thankfully I purchased the lifetime one. And hopefully mine won't "be trippin" anytime soon. I'm just attempting to compensate for the resulting torque loss from the bigger tires/wheels. Not planning on doing any pro-stock burnouts anytime. And the only real hauling I do is dead deer and my 4 wheeler on a small 5x8 trailer during the fall.

GasHole 08-03-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TaderzNgravy (Post 1167017)
I would say the lift/big tires combined with heavy towing or excessive burnouts will put your trans at risk the most. Also, your transmission will not "grenade", you'll just rub the friction material off of all of your OD clutches and possibly warp them causing your truck to lock in gear.

Yeah, I guess the term 'grenade' is a tad overkill....I thought these newer gen transmissions were pretty solid units, though....especially after the trouble Dodge had with the 99 to 01 models.

CdnoilRAM 08-04-2013 12:09 AM

For near-stock power levels the trans is very solid, it's guys like me that push the trans well beyond its design limits that need to worry about them. Even with bigger power levels, if you're smart you can keep a trans alive well past most others, such as running a window switch when spraying and not spraying through shifts, or lifting to shift with boost.


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