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suparam 08-29-2013 11:17 PM

Attempts to turn over but won't
 
So let me get right to the point....

97 Ram 5.9L Sport

This is day two. My truck stalled on me while on my way home. It turned off and I was able to coast to the side of the road. I attempted several times to restart the truck but it attempted to turn over but won't. I ended up getting pulled home. Today, I tried and tried. I have about a half tank of gas. I talked to a mechanic that my dad knows. He told me to remove the line from my brake booster and spray stater fluid in it and reconnect the line and attempt to start it and it should start. Well, I did that. The truck's battery was drained so I went to get it tested and charged. Needless to say, I had to get a new battery. I got the battery and made another attempt. Before I tried that, I put the truck in the on position and I rushed to the gas tank. I heard it turn on and then I tried to start the truck....

Still, no dice! The guy will come to my house and teach me but that won't be until the weekend. I really need my truck. Like yesterday!! Is there anything I can do? Is there something I'm not doing correctly?

ANY good advice to lead me in the right direction would be great. So far I'm about $200 in and running low on funds... Thanks for your time. I'm at the end of my rope and I really don't know what to do......

RogerRamJet 08-30-2013 12:05 AM

There's only a couple of things it could be if it won't crank. That would be the battery, but you just got a new one, or the starter. Could be the starter is bad, could be the connections to the starter are lose or corroded. I'd start with the connection first, make sure they are clean, have good contact and are tight.

suparam 08-31-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerRamJet (Post 1188108)
There's only a couple of things it could be if it won't crank. That would be the battery, but you just got a new one, or the starter. Could be the starter is bad, could be the connections to the starter are lose or corroded. I'd start with the connection first, make sure they are clean, have good contact and are tight.


I was able to talk to the mechanic that started helping me out and surprisingly he didn't mention the starter. It's engaging. Maybe I'm using the wrong term but it does crank but will not completely turn over and start.

He narrowed it down and gave me two possibilities: ignition coil and he said the ???module??? and pointed to the distributor cap. I tried calling him a few minutes ago but he didn't answer. My question is now.... What is the proper name for that. He didn't point to the ignition control module. He pointed to the distributor cap. Is there a module inside of it or something?

I changed the ignition coil $32 and that wasn't it. 32 buck ain't bad so I'm not gonna complain but this stuff is adding up.

RogerRamJet 08-31-2013 06:02 PM

What So the engine turns over OK, it just won't start, correct? My bad, I thought it was having issues cranking, or turning over. 3 things you need for combustion 1) fuel, B) spark & 3rd) compression. If your mechanic thinks it's not getting spark, and you've changed the coil, it could be the ignition pickup, which is the module, I think, he's referring to, in the distributor. You could have a cracked distributor cap or burnt rotor. If you're just going to throw parts at it, do a cap and rotor. If that don't fix it, then try the pickup.

GTyankee 08-31-2013 11:13 PM

If the engine rotates quickly, it should NOT be the Battery or Starter, nor the wires going from the battery to the ignition & starter

have you checked for gas flow, like a fuel pressure test, & in line fuel filter ??

if both of them seem ok, it comes down to SPARK
if there is no spark at the spark plugs or a yellowish colored spark (weak spark),
check for spark at the distributor
pull the distributor cap, look inside for a cracked cap
look for a metal shavings type ring on the inside of the cap
remove the coil wire from the center of the cap & have someone at night, try to start the engine while you are watching for spark near the rotor, i forget whether or not you still have points in that year.

By the way, i would not use Starter Fluid on a gas engine, a bit to much can actually ruin your engine
I use WD-40 instead, it is very flammable & works really well on gasoline engines

if you don't think it works, point the WD-40 nozzle away from you or anything that can burn or melt within several feet, then take something like a rolled piece of paper & light it, then spray the fluid over the top of the flame

don't do this when children are around or you will have pyromaniacs that have to show all the other kids

suparam 09-01-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerRamJet (Post 1189448)
What So the engine turns over OK, it just won't start, correct? My bad, I thought it was having issues cranking, or turning over. 3 things you need for combustion 1) fuel, B) spark & 3rd) compression. If your mechanic thinks it's not getting spark, and you've changed the coil, it could be the ignition pickup, which is the module, I think, he's referring to, in the distributor. You could have a cracked distributor cap or burnt rotor. If you're just going to throw parts at it, do a cap and rotor. If that don't fix it, then try the pickup.

the Kid I got this truck from seems like he's done everything wrong that he thought he fixed... This was supposedly a new distributor cap and rotor. I'll look at all of this today. I need my truck working today!!

But see, that's the thing. I dont want to keep throwing parts at it because I can use that money for something else!!! :smileup:

And I saw where the cap and rotor is located on this truck..... yeah... no fun

And can someone tell me the technical term for that module because I can't find it on the parts stores websites

suparam 09-03-2013 11:12 PM

I have figured it out!!! It was the distributor cap and rotor!!! The contacts were horrible and I replaced it and it started right back up. I had to spend more money to replace the spark plugs but it's all good. I'm back on the road!

Thanks to everyone who helped me figure this out.

Now I get random stalling but it starts right up after. I don't know what that could be.

RogerRamJet 09-03-2013 11:15 PM

Excellent! Good find and thanks for posting the resolution. Reps for sticking with it.


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