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gtfloyd 06-30-2010 04:20 AM

tuner v. warranty
 
I recently bought a Bully Dog GT and I am about to get an oil change so I put the comp back to stock and removed all the components from the truck. My thinking is, as long as the truck doesn't break at some unusually low mileage, I should be fine as far as the lifetime warranty work is concerned. I did some research and I've found that a dealer ISNT obligated to honor the warranty that Chrysler LLC has given you. SO, since I've already modded the exhaust(cat back Gibson Super Truck) and put a CAI(K&N 63S) I figured that it was more than enough "mods" to make a dealer show me the door. I have a pretty good relationship going with my dealer here in OK, I have had all service done here except 3 oil changes. I know that a dealer can find proof of programmer or tuner use EVEN if it is a diablo sport, so they can screw you no matter what. All that to ask, will a dealer check your onboard comp if your rear end goes out just over 100k(which 2 of mine have) and an engine has more than 200k mi and needs some rebuilding work? Both seem like respectable numbers, even if you get them serviced normally. I apologize for the rambling but this legal jargin I've been reading has me a little concerned.

UltraFlame 06-30-2010 07:55 AM

The dealer would have to proove the mod you did to your vehicle caused the mechanical failure. This is all covered by a Magnussen Moss Act.

RamTech 06-30-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by UltraFlame (Post 249855)
The dealer would have to proove the mod you did to your vehicle caused the mechanical failure. This is all covered by a Magnussen Moss Act.

Let's not get too carried away with this. A tuner instantly voids the engine warranty, regardless of what the Magnusson-Moss act says. Most dealers will allow the CAI and exhaust slide though because the possibility of them causing any real problems is small.

CdnoilRAM 06-30-2010 11:03 AM

As a rule of thumb, taking the computer's programming out of the factory specs WILL void the warranty... now... if you get a good programmer that stores the factory tune AND leaves no footprint behind, then you have a chance, as you can just load the stock tune in before taking it in for service.

volcom54626 06-30-2010 02:50 PM

What you MAY want to do if your really concerned about it, is read your warranty contract, legally the warranty information has to be disclosed, what that means is they(Chrysler corporation, or the dealer) has to have their warranty information written out and provided to you the consumer, with a list of what is going to be covered and what is not going to be covered. Basically they have to state that modifying your engine an anyway, or specific ways (I.e. a tuner, cold air intake, supercharger,ect) will void the warranty.
With that being said, I have not given you any legal advice, or have instructed you in any legal way, this was simply informative.

gtfloyd 07-05-2010 01:37 AM

Well they have yet to plug in my OBDII adapter into their computer and I've taken it in for service at least 13 times. what are the chances they actually check it? I have a friend who ran a tuner on a f-150, broke the tranny @ 15k. He took it in without a tune on it and ford replaced it. I have never had a real problem and I dont want to mess myself up but if they dont check it I really dont see the harm. Any thoughts?

moparmike07 07-05-2010 02:00 AM

x2 what everyone said lol but they cant see if do your oil yourself

gtfloyd 07-05-2010 02:07 AM

I read your replies more carefully, you said it voids the engine warranty...what about the tranny, transfer case, rear end? Is the rest of the power train ok? I am not too worried about the engine

erm 07-05-2010 02:20 AM

Given enough time, the manufacturer can come up with a case that a modification that increases HP or torque beyond their spec can contribute to any powertrain component failure.

But understand that their designs are conservative. For instance, it's a known fact that the transmission in my SRT8 can handle 500 HP and 500 lb of torque. The rear differential can't take much more than that.

But the engine only puts out 425/430 at the crank stock. They do leave ya some room to play with. A tuner is not going to give you huge increases in either value.

PimpJuice 07-05-2010 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Remerson228 (Post 249886)
Let's not get too carried away with this. A tuner instantly voids the engine warranty, regardless of what the Magnusson-Moss act says. Most dealers will allow the CAI and exhaust slide though because the possibility of them causing any real problems is small.

Would headers and a cam also void the warranty?

Also to clarify, my warranty is an extended warranty, i got it and the truck from a chevy dealership.


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