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biohaza12d 10-09-2010 02:31 AM

Upper Control Arm Bushing Replacement
 
How would I remove the upper control arm ball joint on a stock 2002 dodge ram 1500? And, after removal, is the ball joint able to be re-used? As all I really need to change are the bushings, but they don't come out very easily without complete removal of the upper-arm. Of course, if it is better to not chance re-using a removed ball-joint I would gladly buy a new one.

But before I do that I need to know how to get the damned thing off haha.
I've removed the two nuts and bolts that hold the top of the arm on each side (where the bushings are located), but down at the point where the arm V's I can't seem to remove the joint. It has a nut on the underside which I removed and it looks as though the ball should be able to be twisted out. It seems really tight though so out of fear of damaging something by doing it wrong I'm asking for some detailed instructions on doing this because I'm kind of a DIY noob when it comes to suspension.

RamTech 10-10-2010 10:27 AM

You need a tool called a pickle fork to remove the joint. The joint can be resued as long as you don't damage it in the process of removing it.

biohaza12d 10-11-2010 03:21 AM

I know that much, but what I'm wondering is it riveted? does that fact that it had a nut on the under side of the joint and appears to be threaded into the slot itself matter? It looks as though the ball should be able to be removed by a wrench and some elbow grease because the very bottom of it fits a 10mm. I've looked through a lot of stuff online and it appears that these all go in different ways depending on the model and year. I'm wondering if anyone has an answer specific to my 2002 Dodge Ram 1500.

Daytona1445 10-11-2010 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by biohaza12d (Post 331463)
I know that much, but what I'm wondering is it riveted? does that fact that it had a nut on the under side of the joint and appears to be threaded into the slot itself matter? It looks as though the ball should be able to be removed by a wrench and some elbow grease because the very bottom of it fits a 10mm. I've looked through a lot of stuff online and it appears that these all go in different ways depending on the model and year. I'm wondering if anyone has an answer specific to my 2002 Dodge Ram 1500.

The upper ball joint and arm are one part. you can not get them seperate.
If you need new bushings and are thinking of or need ball joints you just buy a new upper arm.

biohaza12d 10-11-2010 06:22 AM

well that sucks about having to get a whole new arm to do that, but again, not what I'm asking haha. I am ONLY seeking to replace the bushings but I want to get the ball joint separated from its mounting so I can remove the bushings. (So I want to remove the upper arm WITH the ball joint to be clear). I'm not clear on HOW to do that. I'm also not clear on how I'd get it re-fitted after I'm done replacing the bushings. Thanks in advance.

biohaza12d 10-11-2010 06:24 AM

And by can not get them separate you can't buy them separate? Cuz I've found plenty of just the ball joint and just the arm online. But if you mean they don't come apart that's another story. But, then again, it'd be pretty odd that they sell them individually.

RamTech 10-11-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by biohaza12d (Post 331470)
well that sucks about having to get a whole new arm to do that, but again, not what i'm asking haha. I am only seeking to replace the bushings but i want to get the ball joint separated from its mounting so i can remove the bushings. (so i want to remove the upper arm with the ball joint to be clear). I'm not clear on how to do that. I'm also not clear on how i'd get it re-fitted after i'm done replacing the bushings. Thanks in advance.


pickle fork!

biohaza12d 10-11-2010 03:54 PM

yes, pickle fork, you said that. That doesn't tell me how I'd get the joint back in place though because I some how doubt that the removal tool is the tool used to put it back in place.

And, that was a multiple point question, not a single.

biohaza12d 10-12-2010 03:14 AM

Thanks for attempting to help me those who gave input. I've managed to figure it out on my own though, including the fact that pickle forks are of the devil and should never be used to remove a ball stud. there is actually a better tool to use that doesnt cause the damage a pickle fork is capable of causing. Thanks anyway


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