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cosbourn 04-19-2011 10:30 PM

2100 RPM rattling noise?
 
So after owning my truck for close to 1 year now I have finally lost all patience with dealing with the faint to annoying rattling (sounds like a tin can or something) coming from the underside of the truck at or right below 2100 RPM. Once I pass 2100 or come back down from 2100 it completely goes back to normal sounding. Performance has not been lost and the truck is getting average mpg so idk if it's my cats. Thing is it only happens when the truck is in gear and under load, ie up a hill or getting on the highway or pulling from stoplight etc.

It was present when the truck had the stock muffler on, so i didn't think anything of it, thought it could be the stock muffler with a broke baffle weld or a loose heat shield. I then switched to a FM40 and the sound was still present. After dealing the massive drone a FM40 has I switched to a Aerotrubine 3030xl and it is now worse than ever. I have tightened every accessible heat shield bolt/screw and tightened. My U-Joints look fine (thought it might be them straining under that particular rpm). I even went as far to take my stock manifold heat shields off as I thought they were causing the problem (one had a broke stud and the heat shield would bounce around). But that didn't help the problem at all.

Everything I am reading is saying that it's the muffler but seriously? What's the chances of having 3 different mufflers within a year, all 3 of which with busted muffler welds? I think not...

I had a 96' Ram that I had to get my cat replaced because it would rattle almost identically sounding but only at idle ~650 rpm. My truck now doesn't have this problem at idle. ONLY at 2100 rpm under load and in gear. SO..with all that being said is anyone experiencing the same problem I am? Any suggestions on things to check? Is there anyway to check the cat's externally before taking them to muffler guy and having him charge me $$$ I don't want to spend?

Thanks a bunch for the input guys!

ramvan2500 04-20-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cosbourn (Post 505376)
So after owning my truck for close to 1 year now I have finally lost all patience with dealing with the faint to annoying rattling (sounds like a tin can or something) coming from the underside of the truck at or right below 2100 RPM. Once I pass 2100 or come back down from 2100 it completely goes back to normal sounding. Performance has not been lost and the truck is getting average mpg so idk if it's my cats. Thing is it only happens when the truck is in gear and under load, ie up a hill or getting on the highway or pulling from stoplight etc.

It was present when the truck had the stock muffler on, so i didn't think anything of it, thought it could be the stock muffler with a broke baffle weld or a loose heat shield. I then switched to a FM40 and the sound was still present. After dealing the massive drone a FM40 has I switched to a Aerotrubine 3030xl and it is now worse than ever. I have tightened every accessible heat shield bolt/screw and tightened. My U-Joints look fine (thought it might be them straining under that particular rpm). I even went as far to take my stock manifold heat shields off as I thought they were causing the problem (one had a broke stud and the heat shield would bounce around). But that didn't help the problem at all.

Everything I am reading is saying that it's the muffler but seriously? What's the chances of having 3 different mufflers within a year, all 3 of which with busted muffler welds? I think not...

I had a 96' Ram that I had to get my cat replaced because it would rattle almost identically sounding but only at idle ~650 rpm. My truck now doesn't have this problem at idle. ONLY at 2100 rpm under load and in gear. SO..with all that being said is anyone experiencing the same problem I am? Any suggestions on things to check? Is there anyway to check the cat's externally before taking them to muffler guy and having him charge me $$$ I don't want to spend?

Thanks a bunch for the input guys!

Only thing I can think of is with the catalytic converter because their is something that rattles around inside the converter. Idk if this is your case or not but all I can think of at this second.

chefred112 04-20-2011 01:35 PM

I'm leaning towards the cats as well...

cosbourn 04-20-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ramvan2500 (Post 505835)
Only thing I can think of is with the catalytic converter because their is something that rattles around inside the converter. Idk if this is your case or not but all I can think of at this second.

Yeah, my previous trucks cat had the internal material ball up and melt.

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Originally Posted by chefred112 (Post 505873)
I'm leaning towards the cats as well...

Yeah. That's what I'm feeling unfortunately.

Anybody running magnaflow replacement midpipes with cats and y pipe?? Part number is 49597, 49596 per magnaflow.

07 2500 04-20-2011 02:48 PM

hit the cat with your hands (while cold) if the honeycomb is broke you'll hear it. if thats the case it has a federal warranty 8 year or 80k which ever comes first. also check the heat shield around the fuel tank. mine busted off there and was ratteling

cosbourn 04-20-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 07 2500 (Post 505916)
hit the cat with your hands (while cold) if the honeycomb is broke you'll hear it. if thats the case it has a federal warranty 8 year or 80k which ever comes first. also check the heat shield around the fuel tank. mine busted off there and was ratteling

Really??? So should I contact my local dodge dealer? Mine is an 04 with 65k miles, it was built in 2003 so it may be close...when was that federal law passed and what year cars does it include?

I tapped on em with a pair of channelocks and one sounded weird in one spot, like it went from being a thud to a ting. Im assuming they are supposed to sound uniform throughout? May be cat material that has been lost.

I will also check the fuel tank one, I DID overlook that one.

Thanks a bunch 07 2500

cosbourn 04-20-2011 03:40 PM

Found it. Clean air act, vehicles '95 and newer, 8 year/80k miles on cats. Wow, I didn't know they had such a critter.

Now with my exhaust being custom from the stock y back, does it interfere or void this warranty?

Ruffian11 04-20-2011 08:16 PM

As for the warranty i do not know taking it to the dealership they may be able to tell you, best bet to be %100 percent sure is use either your hand or a rubber or softfaced mallet and hit the cats, if you hear a rattling the honey comb has broke apart...using the chanel locks is going to create other noise and you will probably not here the rattle

07 2500 04-20-2011 08:25 PM

Cat back exhaust will not void that warranty The PCM is also covered since it controls the emissions

07 2500 04-20-2011 08:28 PM

If you have access to a good scanner like snap on or OTC you can see what back O2 sensors are reading the knox will b high


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