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1sickram 10-26-2011 10:33 PM

Better to cut stock springs or lowered springs?
 
im wanting to lower my 2012 express lower than a 2/4 drop. i was thinking going with mcg's 2 inch drop spindles and 2 inch springs and rear with the 4 in drop spring. my question is would it be better to cut the factory spring to my desired height or cut the lowered spring that comes with the 2/4 kit? any input would be awesome.

snrusnak 10-26-2011 10:47 PM

Don't go cutting springs without care, it is very dangerous. Some people say they've done it this way or that, and it was fine, but they are just lucky most of the time, I've seen many bad results, and they usually occur under high stress moments(like a hard corner/swerving, or panic braking).

There are only certain types of springs that can be safely cut, and some of the rear springs on these rams can be safely cut, some(most) can not be safely cut. Fronts can not be safely cut. Either way this won't help you, even if you have the rear type that can be cut you shouldn't cut more than a 2" drop or it becomes unsafe.

How much front/rear drop do you want to end up with? Even if you get the kit, you most likely can't safely cut the front springs, and may or may not be able to safely cut the rears.

EDIT: Also, the method of cutting is important, if you get the springs hot you will ruin them.

1sickram 10-26-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by snrusnak (Post 644433)
Don't go cutting springs without care, it is very dangerous. Some people say they've done it this way or that, and it was fine, but they are just lucky most of the time, I've seen many bad results, and they usually occur under high stress moments(like a hard corner/swerving, or panic braking).

There are only certain types of springs that can be safely cut, and some of the rear springs on these rams can be safely cut, some(most) can not be safely cut. Fronts can not be safely cut. Either way this won't help you, even if you have the rear type that can be cut you shouldn't cut more than a 2" drop or it becomes unsafe.

How much front/rear drop do you want to end up with? Even if you get the kit, you most likely can't safely cut the front springs, and may or may not be able to safely cut the rears.

EDIT: Also, the method of cutting is important, if you get the springs hot you will ruin them.


i would like a 4/6 drop if possible. i was thinking of running 22's, i can get the mcg's 2 inch drop spindles and the 2 inch lowering springs so no cutting of anything in the front. it's the rear thats a pain in the a$$ to accomplish. they have the 4 inch drop spring but needing six. this is my dilemma, what to do.

snrusnak 10-26-2011 11:02 PM

Can you find a picture of the rear spring from the kit? If you can and post it I can tell you if it can be safely cut.

1sickram 10-26-2011 11:05 PM

will a company out there make somebody a desired spring so we dont have to cut one?

snrusnak 10-26-2011 11:08 PM

I think there are companies that do that, but I don't know who or what it'd cost. I'd guess it's expensive but let someone else help you out as I'm not sure. Make sure you don't let a shop heat the spring up and let the truck drop to where you want it from it's weight, then let the spring cool, this will ruin the spring (heat) and it is dangerous.

EDIT: If you post a pic maybe you can cut the one in the kit. It can be done and is pretty easy, but you just need to know how to do it safely.

1sickram 10-26-2011 11:09 PM

http://www.fasthemis.com/963SP---Bel...09-2011--.aspx

1sickram 10-26-2011 11:11 PM

i just noticed in that picture there is only one set of springs. are those for the front or rear? if the rear hows the front lowered with that kid.

snrusnak 10-26-2011 11:18 PM

I believe those springs are for the rear. I'm not sure how they lower the front with that kit. I would not cut those springs, it would be dangerous.

Here's a picture of stock rear springs(top is from an RT, bottom from my quad cab):

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...sRTsprings.jpg

Notice the RT spring has progressively tighter wound coils near the top, the regular quad cab does not. With the tightly wound coils you can cut a little bit off and still be safe as the majority of the spring will still contact the spring perch. With the spring from the quad cab(and the one from your kit from the picture), they are not tightly wound enough to cut safely as most of the spring would not contact the perch. I got the RT springs from another member on here and am going to cut them to lower my truck in the rear about 2".

snrusnak 10-26-2011 11:23 PM

Also, just so you know I'm technically giving you bad info lol....even the RT springs should technically not be cut, but since they are tightly wound coils it is not unsafe. There is only one type of spring that is safe to be cut and the springs on our trucks are not that type. Like I said though the really tightly wound coils are ok to cut if you are comfortable with that. I just wanted to let you know this as it's technically not good practice to cut these springs.


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