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eunospeed 11-30-2011 01:49 PM

V6 Towing Advice Needed
 
Guys, I have the 3.7L with a 5 speed manual. I think I saw the tow rating to be in the 3,500lb range. I have a Miata I would like to tow to the track maybe twice a year but I don't want to spend the big bucks for an aluminum trailer. Can anyone tell me what's the limiting factor for my truck? Is it the clutch, transmisson or engine (or all the above)? Can't be brakes ;-) Thanks!

HemiLonestar 12-01-2011 10:50 PM

Engine power + frame strength + hitch rating + suspension capability + rear axle strength + rear axle ratio (for the most part).

eunospeed 12-06-2011 04:11 PM

After owning this thing for about 3 weeks now I would say its the engine (assuming the clutch would hold). Its just really down on power so a heavy trailer would likely bring this thing to a crawl ;-( Brakes, suspension, and tranny are likely ok. Lucky I bought it mainly to do lite household work and for my son to drive. He would be too tempted to burn-rubber with a Hemi ;-) This thing won't get out of its own way.

snrusnak 12-06-2011 05:19 PM

The manual trans should hold up fine and like you said the overall truck, suspension, brakes, etc. are identical to the v8 trucks so that will be fine. The lack of torque from the v6 and the clutch will be the limiting factors. Towing with a manual paired to an engine that has very little low end torque makes clutches go FAST. I used to have an s10 with a 4 cylinder and manual, and I would refuse to be limited by those two things lol. I once replaced the clutch, and within months it was glazed from me constantly hauling up to double the payload it is rated for. It was still fine for years during regular driving, but anytime after that that I put a load on it it would get hot fast and would chatter and jerk pretty bad. Not much you can do about that though other than avoid stopping and starting a lot while loaded...or replace the clutch often haha

eunospeed 12-06-2011 10:43 PM

Thanks for the info man, I totally agree. If I can find a trailer that's light weight I should be ok. Not going to tow very often, if I have to do a clutch I guess that's the painful price I will have to pay.

snrusnak 12-06-2011 11:57 PM

The good thing is a clutch is relatively inexpensive, and relatively easy to change, so it's a decent "wear" item. After doing it the first time on my s10, spending the whole day, the second time I did it probably only took about 3 hours at most.

HemiLonestar 12-07-2011 12:16 AM

What gear ratio do you have? The thing with the 3.7 (besides distinct lack of displacement) is that it's powerband is further up. 3.92's (if you don't have them already) to 4.56's will help ALOT towards getting things moving.

eunospeed 12-07-2011 05:07 PM

Yeah, it moves pretty well once you rev it. I always let her warm-up first, then she can be pushed to 4-5K.

GTyankee 12-07-2011 05:39 PM

I believe the transmission that you have is
5-Speed, Manual, NV3500

ESTIMATED TRAILER TOWING CAPACITIES
Regular Cab 2WD short bed
Max Trailer Weights,
GVWR Engine Transmission ....Axle Ratio Payload Curb Wt. GCWR, lbs.(a) lbs.(b)
6350.. 3.7L V-6 Manual five-speed 3.55 1810 .....4542 ....8000 3300
6350 ..3.7L V-6 Manual five-speed 3.92 1810 .....4542 ....8000 3300

Long Bed
6550 3.7L V-6 Manual five-speed 3.55 1850 4696 8000 3150
6550 3.7L V-6 Manual five-speed 3.92 1850 4696 8000 3150

http://dodgeram.info/2004/pdf/ram1500_2004CY.pdf

snrusnak 12-08-2011 12:01 AM

^wow that's pretty light towing...my 4 cylinder s10 could tow about the same...it's strange though that the gearing doesn't matter in what's posted above...I think something's wrong there?


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