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vinny27 12-01-2011 03:46 PM

Remote starter question
 
I am installing a Bulldog remote starter on my 2009 Ram. I am having difficulty finding the horn wire. Does anyone know what color wire and the location of this wire is? Thank you.

Barnyard 12-01-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vinny27 (Post 665150)
I am installing a Bulldog remote starter on my 2009 Ram. I am having difficulty finding the horn wire. Does anyone know what color wire and the location of this wire is? Thank you.

It's the ones coming off the horns directly under/in front of your hood latch (behind the front grille).

All joking aside - it kind of depends upon where you need to pick up this wire. I have plans to modify my horns and this is where I'll pick up this circuit since I don't want to mess with/disturb the air bag on the steering wheel.

vinny27 12-01-2011 05:48 PM

I will check that out. Thank you. I don't mind tapping into it there and running a wire back through the firewall. It say's in the manual that I am looking for a grey/yellow wire at a 5 wire relay isolate.

brad12kx 12-01-2011 11:56 PM

Don't waste any more time looking for the wire at a 5 wire relay isolator....it doesn't exist! :wow:

The horn switch in the steering wheel is strictly a 'Mux' circuit that is read by the steering control module and sent via data to the instrument cluster where it travels via the Can Bus to the TIPM. Basically, there is nothing to 'tap' into.

Once you get to the TIPM, there are options. Connector C3 on the bottom (C), Pin 21 with a Gray/Light Blue wire supplies power for Horn #1, and Pin 25 with a Gray/Yellow wire supplies power for Horn #2. The other side of both horns is tied to ground, so either of these wires could be wired through a relay to be use the horn for the remote start. Having said that, why does the remote start need a connection to the horn ??? :4-dontknow:

vinny27 12-02-2011 10:45 AM

It says in the (remote start) manual that the horn is used to program the remote starter. Other than that, not sure. My factory keyless entry does not use the horn so not sure why the remote start would.

brad12kx 12-02-2011 07:50 PM

You might be able to just attach a simple beeper or indicator light if that's all it's used for. :)

Rescue1 12-03-2011 01:46 AM

What provisions do the Bulldog give for the transponder bypass module, and which module are you using? I usually deal with DEI and Audiovox alarms/Auto starts so I'm just curious. Thanks..:wow:

vinny27 12-03-2011 06:56 AM

I am using the xk09 bypass module from xpresskit.

vinny27 12-03-2011 09:14 AM

To give you a rundown of what I have going. I have installed the Bulldog 600 deluxe remote starter with the xpresskit xk09 bypass module. The locks work, the parking lights work, but, the remote start does not work. They told me at Bulldog it's a programming issue and that the horn should sound to help program it. When I hit the remote start to try to start the truck, I hear 3 clicks at the ignition barrel and then nothing. The lcd diagnostic readout is telling me "not sensing the tach" which Bulldog tells me is a programming issue. This is why I am trying to tie the horn in.

brad12kx 12-03-2011 11:50 AM

The horn output of the Bulldog provides a 200ma ground trigger.
If you used a Piezo Buzzer like the Radio Shack 273-059, which is only 76db and only needs 10ma, you could connect the red wire to +12V, and the black wire to the horn output. This would give you the audible feedback for programming, at a cost of $3.49. :)


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