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2011SThemi 12-04-2011 01:40 PM

Question about gears, LSD and traction control
 
So as some of you know winter has officially hit us in Canada. I have discovered that I really don't enjoy driving my truck in the winter time. I have never has this problem before. The truck has to be switched into 4 wheel drive to get over a small snow bank when leaving my house. My previous truck never has a problem with this. It was equiped with 4.10 gears and a LSD with no traction control. My question is would I benefit more with putting one or the other in mine? or is it worth my money to do them both at the same time as they'll have the rear end ripped apart? The traction control is great when your moving but robs the power to spin the tires when needed on packed and unpacked snow to take off or correct the back end. I turn it off frequently however even with it off I get the traction light flashing on my dash and feels as if my power is reduced, I don't know if this is in my head or if it actually is reducing the power even with my traction control off. Any insite from someone with the same experience would be appreciated. Also I have 3.56 gears and about 160lbs of weight in the back end currently.

wbowyer 12-04-2011 01:44 PM

I have noticed the traction control still trying to work when I have disengaged it too. Granted my experiences were just moving some stuff around the yard, but it is still frustrating. I expect that when you turn something off it stays OFF.

2011SThemi 12-04-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wbowyer (Post 666987)
I have noticed the traction control still trying to work when I have disengaged it too. Granted my experiences were just moving some stuff around the yard, but it is still frustrating. I expect that when you turn something off it stays OFF.

excellent so i'm not loosing my mind. its very frustrating when you need it to stay off

TerrysRam 12-04-2011 02:30 PM

What kind of tires do you have on the truck? Are they as aggressive as the tires you had on your old ones? Tires make a huge difference in the winter weather. I know, Captain Obvious huh?
Seriously though, just a thought.

2011SThemi 12-04-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TerrysRam (Post 667012)
What kind of tires do you have on the truck? Are they as aggressive as the tires you had on your old ones? Tires make a huge difference in the winter weather. I know, Captain Obvious huh?
Seriously though, just a thought.

Tires are almost the exact same, both sets are aggressive all/mud terrains so I can not see that as being the reason

sxthemicrewcab 12-04-2011 02:45 PM

i had the same issue with my 2010 sxt crew. i traded it in on a 2011 with the 3.92 gears and a lsd, major difference, see how much it will cost to get the lsd installed.

2011SThemi 12-04-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sxthemicrewcab (Post 667036)
i had the same issue with my 2010 sxt crew. i traded it in on a 2011 with the 3.92 gears and a lsd, major difference, see how much it will cost to get the lsd installed.

Perfect, someone from Alberta finally chimes in. Thats what I suspected the issue was but wanted something to confirm my thoughts. I'll have to check out the dealership Monday to see how much its going to cost or look at an after market shop in Red Deer.
Does anyone have any advice on brands of lsd? or am I stuck getting an OEM one?

TerrysRam 12-04-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011SThemi (Post 667026)
Tires are almost the exact same, both sets are aggressive all/mud terrains so I can not see that as being the reason


Okay, just a thought. I've got the Outdoorsman with the 3.92 and LSD. Many threads on here questioning why Ram didn't put LSD in all the rear ends. I think it's a fantastic thing to have in wintery conditions.

*edit* Post back what you find out price wise. I'm curious.

2011SThemi 12-04-2011 08:17 PM

after some serious research (dragging myself out of the warm house to the cold truck) I finally found my original build sheet for the truck. After looking at it throughly it was a bitter sweet moment. To my suprise I actually paid for the 3.92 rear end with the anti-spin differential rear axle :SHOCKED:and realized then that my truck just really really sucks in snow :doh: sorry for the previous post, i guess i'll just have to suck it up for the winter time and use 4x4.
Has anyone else had this problem with turning off traction control and still getting the flashing light on the dash? is this caused by dodge's "anti-spin differential" still being engaged?

5.7HEMI 12-04-2011 09:51 PM

Try this trick for traction control disabling.

1. Put 4wd selector in 4WD High lock mode.
2. Hold traction control off button until you hear the chime.

Traction control is now COMPLETELY disabled until you go above 40mph I believe it is.

EDIT: This only works when you are in 4WD.


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