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#1 ·
According to my dealer I am at D1. Anyone know what exactly that means? I emailed CS on tuesday and they sent me a VIN. My order was placed 7/5 for a CC sport 2wd, no air ride.

Has anyone progressed past D1 yet?
 
#1,247 ·
Ouch, still in "Storage" I fear I may have hit the dreaded QA long term hold.
 
#1,255 ·
Hello, and welcome to Thursday!

Surewhynot
  • VON/VIN: EG166278
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route (It's is at the border now)

lowfast
  • VON/VIN: ES242688
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Est Build: 1/10/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/13/2014
  • Currently: QA Check

funmg
  • VON/VIN: ES226952
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 12/9/2013
  • Est Ship: 12/10/2013
  • Currently: On truck to dealer

RC51
  • VON/VIN: ES209770
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route, Montreal

crusher
  • VON/VIN: ES252300 (Tomorrow will be your lucky day)
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/28/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/29/2014

dpac56
  • VON/VIN: ES251310
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 1/08/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/09/2014
  • Currently: QA Check CLEARED

CBR
  • VON/VIN: EG197866
  • Status: F (Paint)
  • Est Build: 1/15/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/16/2014

Kevsdad
  • VON/VIN: ES242732
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Est Build: 1/11/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/12/2014
  • Currently: QA Check

m5guy
  • VON/VIN: EG194276
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Est Build: 1/2/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/9/2014
  • Currently: QA Check

shadow241
  • VON/VIN: ES253365
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Est Build: 1/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/11/2014
  • Currently: QA Check

sycchevelle
  • VON/VIN: EG183623
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: At final rail destination, ETA to dealer week of 1/20

haeley
  • VON/VIN: ES252399
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 1/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/10/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Draperfish
  • VON/VIN: ES247569
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 1/7/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/8/2014
  • Currently: En Route, TN

toolmaker62
  • VON/VIN: EG204468
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/23/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/24/2014

canadian.bacon
  • VON/VIN: 30480688
  • Status: ? (Normal if you recently ordered)

rcmpvet
  • VON/VIN: ES252285
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 1/8/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/9/2014
  • Currently: QA Check CLEARED

60Driver
  • VON/VIN: ES267117
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

jeep4me99
  • VON/VIN: ES264917
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/22/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/24/2014

2013ram
  • VON/VIN: ES275416
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

mopar44o
  • VON/VIN: 30474053
  • Status: ? (Normal if you recently ordered)
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

finn5033
  • VON/VIN: ES267079
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

Blackhawk13
  • VON/VIN:
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

starid
  • VON/VIN: ES267113
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/23/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/24/2014

harleyfx
  • VON/VIN: ES254911
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

rhougey
  • VON/VIN: ES247568
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Currently: QA Check

RisingEagle
  • VON/VIN: EG210920
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

Ordy
  • VON/VIN: ES276390
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?


lovndcummins
  • VON/VIN: ES267142
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

Standard disclaimers apply
 
#1,259 ·
i'm also from canada, and just to let you know, i ordered mine begening of december and just switch to d1 today,.. so be patient, but i dont think your dealer was right to tell you 6-8 weeks,..

if i'm not mistaking just the shipping from usa to canada will take 2-3 weeks with the border crossing and everything,..

but i'm sure spp will tell you more accuratly
 
#1,258 ·
Thank you SPP

Thanks for all the updates, it's great to have an idea of what is happening behind the scenes. Especially for those that are selling their vehicle themselves and I'm sure it helps the dealers field a lot less phone calls.

Picked up my Limited yesterday and everything seems perfect with it so far.
 
#1,260 ·
I am in reverse mode from you two guys. I also ordered beginning of December on the advice that the build would probably take 10-12 weeks. For me the timing was perfect for a couple of reasons:

1 - a little more time to build up on the cash portion of the price

2 - being able to kill two birds with one stone, had a trip planned to Ottawa to be with grand-children for spring break and pick up the truck at the same time. (Good reason why I travel 600 kms for my purchase)

Both the dealer and myself were surprised when we were advised of the D1 status in the middle of December. Now I suspect it will probably arrive last week of January.
 
#1,262 ·
I am in California, and also ordered first week of December. Car went to paint 12/24, and has now been in JS/QA hold for a long time. I'm starting to really doubt it will arrive in CA before the end of January. I'm gonna spend the afternoon cleaning up the old car to sell.
 
#1,276 · (Edited)
I show it going to paint on the 23rd. Then the holidays happened. It got picked back up on the 12th and went to inspection/storage on the 13th. I would plan on a February delivery at this point. I'll explain how this happens at the end.


SPP, I've been in paint for two days now, is this a glitch?

p.s. Thank you for everything!
No, it happens. See the end of the post

SPP can weigh in but typically unless an option is on restriction and can't be ordered or there's a supply issue, it should really affect delivery times. Now since the side steps and spray-in bed liner are done by vendors that aren't part of the line, I'm not sure if that is causing delays? It would be interesting if SPP could provide us stats on average delivery times to US vs. Canada based on the vehicles he's graciously tracked for us.
Shipping: Average transit times are quoted from 7 days to Ohio to 31 days to Hawaii/Alaska. Canada is a bit different I believe as I think there is a customs check (definitely from MX->US). Vehicles going east (from Detroit) are trucked across the border to one of a few yards in Windsor and shipped from there. I've seen transit times from a few days to Windsor to a few weeks to Saint Join and the other Maritimes. Canada is typically a bit longer due to the cross border issues. Going west doesn't seem to have that particular problem. Then again, the busiest crossings are the ones between MI and ON.

Body Vendor: See next post

No idea if the Ram trucks are similar to other manufacturers but I toured the Toyota Sienna plant in Indiana 2 separate times. One of those times, they took me over to a separate building where they installed "accessories". It's located on the same site; just a different building. I don't recall how much longer it took to install the extra stuff but I wouldn't think it would be longer than 2 days max. It was actually kind of cool to see how they do it. They have 2 post and 4 post lifts and just do the installations by hand (not automated like the main plant). They did not have a long line of vehicles waiting. I would assume the Ram "extras" would be handled similarly (separate building on the main assembly plant site).
Body Vendor items are handled by an offsite company named Ground Effects. They have a full robotized factory for the spray liner (insane quality on that spray job...). There is also the upcoming Mopar customization shop inside the plant itself. I believe they are going to handle the side step install and other upcoming customization options. Typically they don't spend more than 2-4 days in the shop but like all manufacturing ops, one event can cause big backups (like a paint booth robot suddenly deciding on its own to make a two tone truck).


Sometimes it appears that a vehicle get "stuck" or "held" at certain points in the process. This is normal and can happen. When you think of an assembly line, think of it in three phases: Framing, painting, and final assembly. It's actually one line in three parts. Between these lines are hold areas that act as a buffer in case one of the phases gets backed up or slowed for a reason (see paint booth example above). It also allows vehicles to be pulled off the line in case there were issues that can't be taken care of on the line. The vehicle is inspected between these points to ensure the quality is where it needs to be at the end of frame, at the end of paint, and the very last and final inspection.

Sometimes a paint robot will miss an area (due to a pressure drop or other issue), a welding machine misses a weld due to an issue, or some other issue happens. These body shells are pulled off the line, fixed and injected back into the line to continue on to the next phase. If they can't be fixed, panels are pulled and the shell is scrapped (rare but it happens). These points are the only places in the process where vehicles can be rearranged or pulled in the production process. Otherwise, it's considered a "frozen rope" once it hits final assembly.

I recently had the pleasure of touring Jefferson North where the Grand Cherokee and Durango are built. It's an amazing, almost magical place if you are a car guy. I learned quite a bit about the process and have better insight on why sometimes VOTS appears to have issues and why things happen when they do. If you want to see a pretty cool video illustrating the highlights of that process, the "Inside Out" video about the 2015 Chrysler 200 is pretty similar to the process you will find at Warren and Saltillo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30x4wfphTuE
 
#1,261 ·
Mine was ordered early December and has been built in 09-14, but stock in storage right now! I guess it's depending on chosen options.

<LI itxtNodeId="390" itxtHarvested="0">VON/VIN: ES253365 <LI itxtNodeId="389" itxtHarvested="0">Status: JS (Storage) <LI itxtNodeId="388" itxtHarvested="0">Est Build: 1/9/2014 <LI itxtNodeId="387" itxtHarvested="0">Est Ship: 1/11/2014 <LI itxtNodeId="386" itxtHarvested="0">Currently: QA Check
 
#1,267 ·
SPP can weigh in but typically unless an option is on restriction and can't be ordered or there's a supply issue, it should really affect delivery times. Now since the side steps and spray-in bed liner are done by vendors that aren't part of the line, I'm not sure if that is causing delays? It would be interesting if SPP could provide us stats on average delivery times to US vs. Canada based on the vehicles he's graciously tracked for us.
 
#1,268 ·
No idea if the Ram trucks are similar to other manufacturers but I toured the Toyota Sienna plant in Indiana 2 separate times. One of those times, they took me over to a separate building where they installed "accessories". It's located on the same site; just a different building. I don't recall how much longer it took to install the extra stuff but I wouldn't think it would be longer than 2 days max. It was actually kind of cool to see how they do it. They have 2 post and 4 post lifts and just do the installations by hand (not automated like the main plant). They did not have a long line of vehicles waiting. I would assume the Ram "extras" would be handled similarly (separate building on the main assembly plant site).
 
#1,269 ·
I don't have time tonight to run the stats but I can provide a few tidbits of info in the AM.

canadian.bacon, I am trying to find your VON but I typically don't see it until D status. This seems to be typical for some Canadian orders. I've mentioned this a few months ago but they sit, sit, sit, and then D->D1->KZ before you know it.
 
#1,270 ·
Thanks SPP! We'll look forward to it!
 
#1,274 ·
FRIDAY!

And a three day weekend for many, including me. Updates on Monday may or may not happen depending on if I attend NAIAS or not. Anyway, here's some of the info you've been waiting for:

Surewhynot
  • VON/VIN: EG166278
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route (It is at the border now)

lowfast
  • VON/VIN: ES242688
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 1/10/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/13/2014
  • Currently: QA Check CLEARED

funmg
  • VON/VIN: ES226952
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 12/9/2013
  • Est Ship: 12/10/2013
  • Currently: On truck to dealer

RC51
  • VON/VIN: ES209770
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route, New Brunswick (Moncton)

crusher
  • VON/VIN: ES252300
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/28/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/29/2014

dpac56
  • VON/VIN: ES251310
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 1/08/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/09/2014
  • Currently: QA Check CLEARED

CBR
  • VON/VIN: EG197866
  • Status: I (Inspection)
  • Est Build: 1/15/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/16/2014

Kevsdad
  • VON/VIN: ES242732
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 1/11/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/12/2014
  • Currently: QA Check CLEARED

m5guy
  • VON/VIN: EG194276
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Est Build: 1/2/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/9/2014
  • Currently: QA Check

shadow241
  • VON/VIN: ES253365
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Est Build: 1/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/11/2014
  • Currently: QA Check

sycchevelle
  • VON/VIN: EG183623
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: At final rail destination, ETA to dealer week of 1/20

haeley
  • VON/VIN: ES252399
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 1/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/10/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Draperfish
  • VON/VIN: ES247569
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 1/7/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/8/2014
  • Currently: En Route, TN

toolmaker62
  • VON/VIN: EG204468
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/23/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/24/2014

canadian.bacon
  • VON/VIN: 30480688
  • Status: ? (Normal if you recently ordered)

rcmpvet
  • VON/VIN: ES252285
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 1/8/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/9/2014
  • Currently: QA Check CLEARED

60Driver
  • VON/VIN: ES267117
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

jeep4me99
  • VON/VIN: ES264917
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/22/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/24/2014

2013ram
  • VON/VIN: ES275416
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

mopar44o
  • VON/VIN: 30474053
  • Status: ? (Normal if you recently ordered)
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

finn5033
  • VON/VIN: ES267079
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

Blackhawk13
  • VON/VIN: ES276389
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

starid
  • VON/VIN: ES267113
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/23/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/24/2014

harleyfx
  • VON/VIN: ES254911
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/30/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/31/2014

rhougey
  • VON/VIN: ES247568
  • Status: JS (Storage)
  • Currently: QA Check

RisingEagle
  • VON/VIN: EG210920
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

Ordy
  • VON/VIN: ES276390
  • Status: D
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

lovndcummins
  • VON/VIN: ES267142
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 1/26/2014
  • Est Ship: 1/27/2014

Standard disclaimers apply
 
#1,275 ·
spp, mine is in status D with no build date yet. I was wondering is it still possible to add anything to the build at this point? I would ask my dealer but without your help I wouldn't have even gotten my POC from them. Either they are lazy or they don't know what they are doing.
 
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