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Old 08-23-2011, 10:38 AM
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The 16869 is designed for Rams with the cut-out bumper,
the 16870 is for the non-cutout bumper. so the tips are smaller and mount lower below the bumper.

The size of the tip is the only real difference.

You may have to adjust the hanger height to raise the tips if you install the 16870 on a bumper with stock cut-outs.

I doubt that anyone would know the 16869 is an aftermarket exhaust at idle, and it looks like it was factory made for the larger bumper cutouts.

If you don't want the 5" tips, I would just swap the muffler/y-pipe.
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