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Old 12-01-2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011lilred View Post
Wow, that's a bold statement especially on a Ram forum.

Seriously though, I'd really like to see the numbers on this, because I find it hard to accept that, at say 1500-2000 rpm (prime initial load moving rpms) the turbo has spooled up enough for a gas V6 to out-torque a Hemi V8 (a diesel, yes - a gas V6, no). If it does make it's power down low, then it's got to be out of steam for the higher rpms. Remember, I'm also a CTD owner who tows +10,000lbs so I know about boost, torque and rpm ranges. For example, my 03 Hemi would smoke the tires from a dead idle when flatfooted, then hook after a couple of truck lengths. If I flatfoot my Cummins from a dead idle (same size tires and gearing), it rolls out for about a truck length or so before the boost comes in and then it destroys the tires (my 2011 Hemi has different size tires and gearing so it's not an apples to apples comparison). The Hemi then makes more torque again from 3100-5600 rpm since the CTD redlines at 3100 rpm and therefore makes no torque in that range.
Sounds like my GNs of old.......stab the gas, start to move, then the boost hits and the 85mph speedo pegs to the right and massive white smoke erupts as the tires liquefy.......good fun it was! Thank God 245/60R15 tires were cheap!

I do like the Ecoboost- almost bought one. The boosted V6 would have been a great toy to play with, but the overall package of the Ram (interior comfort, ergonomics, ride quality, NVH index (noise vibration harshness), pricing, and dealer experience = 2011 Ram 1500.