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Old 04-05-2013, 08:06 AM
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Let me ask you, is there any "wearing in" period for the TRS? I'm imagining some kind of wiper contact arrangement. Also would all of the adjustment they did prior to changing the TRS then need readjusted after the new TRS was installed?

The reason I ask is that Monday morning was the last failed start. It has started several times each on tue, weds and today.
There's no break in period for these sensors and replacement of the TRS doesn't require any new adjustments.
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Well, so far it started this morning and twice at lunch. A pretty good temperature range here today as well.
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Ramtech, in this picture, can you tell me if any of the 5 larger grey fuses (or relays?) in the right half of the fuse box are in the start circuit? They are labeled, starting at the upper left relay, going clock wise, K6, K3, K5, K10, K7 and K11?? K5, K10 and K7 were tilted slightly to the right, when I straightened them there was a slight click. They dont seem to seat real well, like they want to rock back and forth. Anyway it has started continuously since Monday morning, several times each day. I've been driving it to work all week long over every pothole I could set my sights on. Just a theory, that one of those was partially making. While I was in there I gave a little push on all fuses in there, not too hard. The box cover doesn't close real well either, you have to hold it down and push the latches in place.

I thought about pulling each one, one at a time to see if it recreates the starting symptom, but I didn't want to screw something else up.

I've just been reading CallMeClay's threads, seems like a similar problem, I see he had his entire fuse box replaced. My dealership kept saying that there were no codes set but I wonder if they really checked . . . .

Just hangin out on the forum this morning and found your thread on the Hemi timing chain tensioner issue . . . holy $%#@! these trucks are cursed!!! From no start to KABOOM!!!

http://ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=126112
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I found my answer under the fuse box TIPM lid. They're not real easy to read with the naked eye (the 53 yr old naked eye anyway!!). My Nikon zoomed them up handily. It looks like none of the ones that were tilting at the right edge could be culprits, but, I did push (re-seat) on every fuse and relay in the box. I see that K3 has something to do with the starter???? Starter sol rly, solenoid?? Does the position of this box at the nose of the truck subject it to harsher vibration??

It continues to start with every try.

Anyway, have a look.
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Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I wasn't online any this weekend. To answer your question, yes there is a starter relay in the TIPM, but here's the kicker - it's internal, so the entire TIPM must be replaced if the relay is at fault. At this point, I would replace the TIPM if I were handling your case.
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Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I wasn't online any this weekend. To answer your question, yes there is a starter relay in the TIPM, but here's the kicker - it's internal, so the entire TIPM must be replaced if the relay is at fault. At this point, I would replace the TIPM if I were handling your case.
Is there a start relay other than the removable (small grey box) one on the fuse panel? Or is the fuse I'm seeing there marked K3 not a starter associated relay?

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dodge29, man that's great news bud! I hope this fixes ya right up and hopefully you start to enjoy your Ram. Great find with the fuse/relay box and definitely some rep points for that.
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dodge29, man that's great news bud! I hope this fixes ya right up and hopefully you start to enjoy your Ram. Great find with the fuse/relay box and definitely some rep points for that.
Thanks! Lets hope this is it. At this point, the next time it wont start, if there is a next time, The first thing I'll do is pop the top of the TIPM and push on the fuses and relays again.

I've canceled taking it in to the nearby dealership for now, I cant see it setting there for days on end, waiting for it to exhibit symptoms so they can work on it.

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It continued to start again today all day. My guess is that any relay in the fuse panel that is labeled with anything saying "start" or "run" must have some effect on those circuits.
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Ah, I love these new Chrysler wiring diagrams. One shows me the starter relay being built into the printed circuit board on the TIPM and another shows it to be removeable.
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