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Old 04-08-2013, 11:03 AM
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To make a long story short, I recently installed 2" rear drop shackles, lowered the torsion bars back down, and decided to swap my stock sized (275/60/20) Cooper Zeon LTZ for the same sized Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus. My motivation was to go back to a more stock or maybe slightly sport truck appearance and to improve the ride quality and noise level a bit. I have only had the new tires on a couple of days so I don't have much to say about them but here's a couple of observations.

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I bought these tires new a little over two years ago for $800 and put about 15k miles on them. I did not rotate them (that I can remember) for most of those miles. I measured them right before I took them off and two measured 9/32 and two measured 8/32. They are 14/32 new so doing the math I think the tires would have lasted about 35-40k miles total. They were a great tire overall. The only complaint I have is most likely related to the lack of rotation. They got pretty loud over the last couple thousand miles. Loud enough that I was concerned I was developing rear diff problems. I sold them after I pulled them off for $325.

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Got these tires from DTD. They didn't have them in stock and had to special order them. Took about 9-10 days from the day I ordered to get them. DTD was running $50 instant savings and I got them for $602 to my door. Initial impressions are that they look good on the truck. The tread is nice and fairly aggressive in a sporty way. The ride and steering feel is good...very similar to the Zeons but just a little better. And lastly (and thankfully) they are super quiet. I mean this puppies make zero noise. Thankfully, the whining I was hearing was not my rear diff, lol. I am going to make sure they are properly rotated every 5k with my synthetic oil change so hopefully they will stay this way.

In short, I highly recommend both of these tires. It really just comes down to what kind of tire you want/need and what look you want. For that aggressive offroad look with great road manners, the Zeon is hard to beat. Just keep em rotated, lol. They don't quite have the manners that a street tire does but it's an A/T so it's not supposed to. For an aggressive sport look in a street tire that will be super quiet and comfortable and will probably still do fair on light offroad (like fields and such, not mudding) the H/T Plus seems like an excellent tire.

I'll post a few pics up later today.
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Old 04-08-2013, 12:13 PM
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nice review. Lookin forward to the pics!
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:38 PM
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FWIW I have zeon ltz's on my truck and they are very quiet. I do rotate them every ~5k miles. I have ~40,000 miles on them currently and they aren't even half way worn. I expect 60k+ miles. They really are a great tire, very streetable too. I will say the only bad thing is wet traction.

I'm doing the same thing you are. I am going to sell/trade my zeons and try to get a set of HT's to get back to a street/sporty look. Do you happen to know a weight comparison between the two tires?
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:11 PM
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I think the weight is very, very close. I have checked on the Zeons online and came up with about 46-50 pounds depending on where you look. The labels on the Discoverers said 48 pounds.
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damn I can't imagine the AT being lighter than the street tire lol
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I wouldn't think so either but I've been fooled before. Being the same size and load index the only thing different though is the tread pattern. Whichever is heavier I would say less than 2 pounds difference is accurate.
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the HT is E rated???
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No no no, sorry. My Zeons were P275/60/20. Load rating XL. The H/T is XL also.
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Oh ok, my zeons are E rated, I just assumed they all are. Maybe that's why the difference in mileage and noise between our tires???
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Sorry the pics are so late. Been taking advantage of the nice weather and most of the day off from work to get some things done. Here they are. Gave it a good wash job yesterday. Followed up with some tire gel today. Got a full on clay/polish/wax/detail planned in a week or two.





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