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Old 06-10-2013, 08:17 PM
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The transmission seams to slip between the 2-3 shift when it should be down shifting for passing, the local AAMCO said 2nd gear is out and it is actually shifting from 1st to 3rd, I did not trust the guy. it only seam to have the problem when accelerating hard, I thought it may have something to do with the kick down cable so I disconnected it to check it out , now it shifts through all gears with no problem but no kick down for passing. can anyone point me in the right direction to fix this problem ?
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The transmission seams to slip between the 2-3 shift when it should be down shifting for passing, the local AAMCO said 2nd gear is out and it is actually shifting from 1st to 3rd, I did not trust the guy. it only seam to have the problem when accelerating hard, I thought it may have something to do with the kick down cable so I disconnected it to check it out , now it shifts through all gears with no problem but no kick down for passing. can anyone point me in the right direction to fix this problem ?
AAMCO, ha, what do they know about anything. Anyways, I build these puppies all the time and It isn't going 1-3, they don't do that and cannot do it, it is going from 1-2 and then slipping on the 2-3. The first thing to do is correct long sliding 2-3 shifts, replace front servo assembly with sonnax 22301B-01K. The next thing to do is have the front drum inner lip seal replaced, 9 times out of 10 this is the cause of a having a no 2-3 shift or a delayed and slipping 2-3 shift. You can also have a slipping reverse or no reverse if this is the issue, sometimes not always though. The theinner lip seal that chrysler used was too small for the extremely large grove the seal sits in, so after so many years of use the seal starts to leak and you get that slipping, happened to my transmission, happened to all the ones I ever fixed. It is just an inherent chrysler flaw. The kickdown for passing is a 4-2 or 3-2, without a 2nd gear you won't have a kickdown, after you have that seal replaced, have the bands adjusted of course but also the throttle valve cable. Oh if you are going to have the seal replaced, just have a soft rebuild done (it's a seal replacement job).
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ramvan 2500 THANK YOU ! I knew they where full of it when they wanted to do a $2500.00 rebuild, I've done older GM Transmissions but nothing from Dodge, I will find someone who can help us with this one. again Thank You ! I hate to get hosed just because I lack a bit of knowledge.
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ramvan 2500 THANK YOU ! I knew they where full of it when they wanted to do a $2500.00 rebuild, I've done older GM Transmissions but nothing from Dodge, I will find someone who can help us with this one. again Thank You ! I hate to get hosed just because I lack a bit of knowledge.
You are most welcome, the seal kits for these are only 50 or 60 bucks, the labour is what someone is going to get you on. You could attempt to do the soft rebuild yourself, it is very easy. The Powerglides aren't a whole lot different than torqueflites. If you do decide to rebuild it yourself, you can use me as a resource for information, I have a factory rebuild manual if you need one. Also, here is a link to the seal kit 22002E
Again, happy I was able to help, any questions just message me or reply to this thread.

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I appreciate the help, I just looked at a 46RE manual online and I'm sure we can tackle this over a weekend.
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I appreciate the help, I just looked at a 46RE manual online and I'm sure we can tackle this over a weekend.
I know you can, anyone can, they are very simple. Just remember to use blue loctite on the torque converter bolts!
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I found a shop that will rent a Lift Bay with a Trans Jack for $28.00hr, If I work out the week before I should be in shape to get it done in a day , I will give the Trans a good going over , Since the Trans will be out I am going to do the Rear Main Engine Seal , it's not very bad but I'll be there anyway , just makes since.
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I found a shop that will rent a Lift Bay with a Trans Jack for $28.00hr, If I work out the week before I should be in shape to get it done in a day , I will give the Trans a good going over , Since the Trans will be out I am going to do the Rear Main Engine Seal , it's not very bad but I'll be there anyway , just makes since.
28/hr, ehh. You could do it in your driveway like I did, go to harbor freight and grab one of those 80 dollar transjacks. Then buy two 1'x2"x10' pieces of wood, for decking. Cut it in lengths of 4',3',2',1' and make yourself a couple of ramps. Drive it up the ramps, put the parking brake on, chock the wheels, throw the transmission in neutral. Then remove it. Oh yea, you also need to put an engine support, I used that yellow nylon tie down, the 3" wide one, wrap it around the frame and under the pan, then tighten the ratchet.

Oh, you don't need to remove the transmission to do the rear main seal, that is mostly GM engines. With the magnum's it is two seal halves, so remove the pan, the oil pump, and the bearing cap. Then using a punch and hammer, just lightly tap the old seal half a little until the other end pops out enough for you to grab with needle nose pliers, then pull the seal out along the circumference of the shaft. As for installing, I'm sure you know what to do.

A good rebuild shouldn't take anymore than 2 days from removal to reinstall, however I would suggest you take your time because you are new to torqueflites, so just take you time. If you get stuck along the way, you can PM me or reply here and I will be able to help in a jiffy. I am going to PM you my email address just incase.
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We live in our RV so the driveway is out of the question, we have put the word out that we need a place to do it and we know a lot of good people around here so I'm sure by the time we get everything ready we'll come up with a reasonable place to do it , having more time than money we will figure it out. As picky as we are about the truck we are planning to do the rear seal at the sametime and if we have enough time I would like to reseal the Differential and change out the U-joints, we plan on doing a lot of miles on the truck and I've always been an over achiever anyway it will be fun.
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We live in our RV so the driveway is out of the question, we have put the word out that we need a place to do it and we know a lot of good people around here so I'm sure by the time we get everything ready we'll come up with a reasonable place to do it , having more time than money we will figure it out. As picky as we are about the truck we are planning to do the rear seal at the sametime and if we have enough time I would like to reseal the Differential and change out the U-joints, we plan on doing a lot of miles on the truck and I've always been an over achiever anyway it will be fun.
Yea living in an RV could pose a problem, it posed a problem for me whenever I needed to do any real serious work on the van. Anyways, well best of luck getting it all together, the best part is having time. Yes with the rear main you might need to lower the exhaust pipes a little to wiggle the oil pan out, so be prepared for those rusted exhaust bolts.
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