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Old 06-11-2013, 11:31 AM
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As stated above, the guy that I bought the truck from told me that he got rid of it to get a 3/4 ton to pull his new camper. I wonder if he pulled it with this truck a time or two and that contributed to the spring condition? It surely hasn't been anywhere near overloaded in the time that I have owned it.

Based on what I see (as pictured in the photos) it really looks like a significant portion of the spring pack touches the OL spring. That's why I was saying it at least appears that the OL spring is supporting the spring pack to some degree. Maybe it only looks like there is so much contact between the spring pack and the OL on my truck because of the condition of the springs. That makes me wonder....is my truck already sitting slightly lower than it would with new, properly formed springs? Would removing the OL and installing new springs packs come anywhere close to negating each other, lol?
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How about a side shot of your truck, stock and with the kit?

I would agree getting new springs and removing the OL is probably the same as where it sits now. It looks like you have maybe 1/2" lower just due to the bent springs.
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My o4 Ram rear springs don't look anything like that. Mine has 170K, towed and drove. Your springs look a little worn out to me.
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"S" shaped spring is caused by axle wrap. Common
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How about a side shot of your truck, stock and with the kit?

I would agree getting new springs and removing the OL is probably the same as where it sits now. It looks like you have maybe 1/2" lower just due to the bent springs.
You mean before the shackles and after? I have a side shot before and after but I lowered the front in between the two pics as well so it may be hard to accurately judge what the shackles actually did.

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I had never heard of axle wrap prior to this thread. Did a little reading and it looks to be the most common on HD, 2500, or lifted trucks. Regardless, other than the appearance of the spring packs, will it hurt anything to run them this way? New spring packs are expensive!!
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You mean before the shackles and after? I have a side shot before and after but I lowered the front in between the two pics as well so it may be hard to accurately judge what the shackles actually did.



I had never heard of axle wrap prior to this thread. Did a little reading and it looks to be the most common on HD, 2500, or lifted trucks. Regardless, other than the appearance of the spring packs, will it hurt anything to run them this way? New spring packs are expensive!!
It's a very common problem on trucks that are lifted w/ blocks. By spacing the axle away from the spring pack it compounds the rotational torque on the springs greatly. Every time you accelerate, the axle housing is trying to rotate, and the only thing stopping this is the springs, so any increase in leverage/applied torque will create more stress on the springs. Apply enough leverage/torque over time and, voila! S-shaped springs.
As far as them being safe to use, you could bend spring steel enough to cause a stress fracture, but I don't think you're there. I've seen much worse.
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I've never thought about that. That's a very good point.
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Thanks for the info so far everyone. Just out of curiosity I checked around and it looks like I can get a set of replacement leaf packs for about $240...probably plus shipping as I'm sure they aren't light. While I was looking I ran across something I haven't seen before...lowering leaf springs. Rather than repost a question that I have asked in another thread (that has gotten no answers yet), I'll post the link here. Any info that any of you can offer is once again appreciated.

http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=145447

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Ouch, yeah, just checked and shipping on the OEM height replacement springs that I mentioned above is over $80.
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call around about getting your springs re-arched
look under Auto Springs & Suspension shops

wilson's rv in asheville
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other possible shops
http://www.yellowpages.com/greensbur...q=Leaf+Springs
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