DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum

Go Back   DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum > Dodge Ram Forum - Help Zone - Dodge Ram Problems, Complaints, & Solutions - Maintenance & Re > 4TH Generation Dodge Ram 2009+ Dodge Ram Trucks > Towing


Notices

Towing 4th Gen Dodge Ram Towing Questions


Latest Vendor News
AutoAnything
Addictive Desert Designs!
United Radio
Bayou Goat Mounts

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 07-11-2013, 09:26 AM
seanbeckaroo seanbeckaroo is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ohio
Age: 37
Posts: 256
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2009 Ram 1500 Crew Cab
Trim Level: SLT-Big Horn
Color: Blue, Sexy Blue
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:66
seanbeckaroo will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RadioFlyer View Post
The biggest fairytale here is that you don't need extra cooling with these trucks. It's also a fairytale that that a 180 tstat and oil cooler will not help keep your engine cooler. If I were the OP, I would install a 180 tsat, oil cooler to feel for himself. Then later down the road a trans cooler and maybe even a aluminum finned trans pan. I've been on this forum for 4 1/2 years and I don't remember seeing one complaint of over heating from a person running a 180 tstat.(I could have missed them) There are lots of people on here who think that a 180 tsat is harmful to your engine and I believe seanbeckaroo is one of them...pardon me if I'm wrong.
Actually, I don't believe a 180 Stat is harmful, I've ran one in my 460. I don't believe it is "cure all" and "MOD Booster" some claim it to be. For the OP's purpose, I believe he has more of a problem than a TSTAT. I personally run a stock stat because it is the optimal temperature for complete combustion; running a cool engine decreases efficiency, I prefer to run the vehicle where it was designed for complete combustion. On the occasions when I tow, the temps I encounter are fine for me with a stock thermostat. If I were to tow a very heavy load, I would probably have got gotten a truck better designed for that. The facts are, thermostat will simply open and close to try to maintain a desired set point. If the temperatures are over 220, Air-flow and coolant is likely going to help more than a 180 stat that is already full open.

You run your engine cold, that is fine, I'll run mine where is designed for complete combustion and optimal fuel efficiency. There is NO scientific proof that concludes running a 180 stat increases performance, engine life, or any other fairy-tale.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 07-11-2013, 10:13 AM
Jmac86201's Avatar
Jmac86201 Jmac86201 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Virginia Beach Virginia
Age: 28
Posts: 66
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: Grey
Color: Grey
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:15
Jmac86201 is on a distinguished road
Default

i have become fond of using the royal purple radiator additive to assist as well. its called purple ice, not only helps with the seals in your system, but adds a few cooler degrees to your operating temp. may help a tad bit with a 180 tstat in there.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 07-11-2013, 10:36 AM
RadioFlyer's Avatar
RadioFlyer RadioFlyer is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: May 2009
Age: 60
Posts: 952
Gender: Male
Rep Power: 6
Rep:146
RadioFlyer will become famous soon enoughRadioFlyer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by seanbeckaroo View Post
There is NO scientific proof that concludes running a 180 stat increases performance, engine life, or any other fairy-tale.
As a child you never ever got any money for those teeth you left under your pillow did you?
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 07-11-2013, 10:49 AM
Gantman's Avatar
Gantman Gantman is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ram Country
Age: 45
Posts: 1,963
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 4x4 Regular Cab w/8ft bed
Trim Level: Tradesman 4x4
Color: White
Engine: 2013-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 395hp 410lb/ft
Rep Power: 4
Rep:974
Gantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RadioFlyer View Post
As a child you never ever got any money for those teeth you left under your pillow did you?
Aw come on Pops, play nice........
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 07-11-2013, 11:01 AM
RadioFlyer's Avatar
RadioFlyer RadioFlyer is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: May 2009
Age: 60
Posts: 952
Gender: Male
Rep Power: 6
Rep:146
RadioFlyer will become famous soon enoughRadioFlyer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gantman View Post
Aw come on Pops, play nice........
Oh well, I guess I'm the only one on here that believes in fairy tales.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 07-11-2013, 03:08 PM
seanbeckaroo seanbeckaroo is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ohio
Age: 37
Posts: 256
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2009 Ram 1500 Crew Cab
Trim Level: SLT-Big Horn
Color: Blue, Sexy Blue
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:66
seanbeckaroo will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RadioFlyer View Post
As a child you never ever got any money for those teeth you left under your pillow did you?

Nope, the Easter Bunny took it
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 07-12-2013, 01:50 PM
jj ram's Avatar
jj ram jj ram is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ottawa Ontario, Canada
Age: 40
Posts: 218
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 Dodge Ram 4x4
Trim Level: Outdoorsman
Color: Maximum Steel Metallic
Engine: 2013-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 395hp 410lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:16
jj ram is on a distinguished road
Default

In an "old school" engine running a 180 thermostat was probalby fine, but on these new computer driven trucks, wouldnt a lower temp thermostat mess up the sensors and other computer driven components that was design for 203 thermostat? I have no proof or anything I'm just asking???

To the OP, I have a feeling that 7,700 lbs trailer is just a tad to heavy for a 1500 truck. I see you're in BC, depending where you live, your "hills" could be a mountain to us out east...

I have 27 ft around 6,000 lbs loaded trailer, and I think it feels close to the max for my truck.

If you go to the trailer towing forums, I am sure the "weight police" will say it's overweight, these guys always like to remind everyone 8,500lbs tow capacity is measured with one 150 lbs guy in the truck, not a full tank of gas, and no other gear or passengers. That 8,500 lbs, is probably more like 7,500lbs towing
__________________
"They will not force us, they will stop degrading use, they will not control us, we will be victorious" - Muse
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 07-12-2013, 03:45 PM
snrusnak's Avatar
snrusnak snrusnak is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Orlando
Age: 27
Posts: 13,388
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: SLT
Color: White
Engine: 2008-20?? 287ci (4.7L) PowerTech V8 310hp 330lb/ft
Rep Power: 12
Rep:1385
snrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
In an "old school" engine running a 180 thermostat was probalby fine, but on these new computer driven trucks, wouldnt a lower temp thermostat mess up the sensors and other computer driven components that was design for 203 thermostat? I have no proof or anything I'm just asking???
That is correct however 180 is typically not low enough to cause issue.
__________________
Sean

Breathing in and out is good enough for me.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 07-13-2013, 07:52 AM
Otterdriver's Avatar
Otterdriver Otterdriver is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 842
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 Big Horn Crew Cab
Trim Level: Big Horn
Color: Western Brown Pearl
Engine: 2013-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 395hp 410lb/ft
Rep Power: 5
Rep:160
Otterdriver has a spectacular aura aboutOtterdriver has a spectacular aura about
Default

So who here has a 2013 and runs a 180 T-stat?? I have to say the points by RadioFlyer makes total sense, I am not saying other points stated are not valid, on the other hand until someone chimes in with a 2013, I am still a little reluctant, I have a long trip in about a week towing our TT, its 26 ft and weighs in at about 5400 lbs loaded, so its well within towing capacity of my truck. I may have a chance mid-trip to change it out the thermostat. I may just do that for comparison reasons, or I may just look into the oil cooler mod that I think Outdoorsman added to his truck with very good real world results, I just don't understand why the oil and water run so much hotter on these trucks, my 2010 ran a lot cooler.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 07-13-2013, 11:23 AM
ArmyofOne's Avatar
ArmyofOne ArmyofOne is offline
US Army Retired


 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Van Alstyne, TX
Age: 29
Posts: 6,104
Gender: Male
Vehicle: '11 Ram 1500 Big Horn Crew 4x4
Trim Level: Big Horn
Color: Brilliant Black
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 10
Rep:1189
ArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud ofArmyofOne has much to be proud of
Default

Cooling is cooling, oil, trans and coolant. cooler fluids will help boost performance (to a point).

I tow my 7000lb boat, and for awhile my truck was stock. It didnt have a problem with it, but like most here have said, I opted to cool my truck down.

I have an additional oil cooler, power steering cooler, transmission cooler, a 180* thermostat, and I plan on doing the heat-sinked oil pan and an E-fan in the very near future.

With a gas engine, you dont have to worry about it being too cold as long as you dont live in canadia or alaska . Seriously, as long as your op temp is above 120 and never goes above 200 or so, you should be good. I will check again on my trip today (unloaded), but I am pretty sure my truck never goes above 150.
__________________
Diesel Technician-PACCAR Inc.
Cummins, PACCAR, CAT, International, Detroit, ASE Certified.

2014 Mazda CX-5 Touring w/Tech Pack-6000K HID's, 20% tint, 35mpg, so I will leave it alone.
2002 Ford Focus ZTW Wagon-loaded, tinted, tunes and commuting. 163k miles and counting...

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What do I need to know about towing a travel trailer car421 Towing 17 08-10-2011 07:34 PM
Trailer Towing duck2456 2010 Dodge Ram Forum 4 05-02-2011 01:31 AM
Trailer towing Bruce E Towing 7 03-08-2011 09:59 PM
Engine runs backwards! Ramspeed 5.9L V8 Specific Topics 19 06-23-2010 01:48 AM
Engine runs hot 1970chevy 4.7L PowerTech V8 Specific Topics 8 09-28-2009 11:08 AM


Advertisement






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:34 AM.


= Copyright RamForumZ.com a Gigathreads.com Network Site =Ad Management by RedTyger
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vB.Sponsors


=Gigathreads Network=
CLUBS MOPAR NATION DSM GPMM MAMM JAM
DIESEL Diesel Forum      
CHEVY Chevy Camaro Forum Chevy Volt Forum    
CHRYSLER Chrysler 300C Forum      
DODGE Dodge Avenger Forum Dodge Caliber Forum Dodge Challenger Forum Dodge Charger Forum
  Dodge Circuit Forum Dodge Hornet Forum Dodge Magnum Forum Dodge Nitro Forum
  Dodge Ram Forum Dodge Dakota Forum Dodge Durango Forum Dodge Dart Forum
FORD Ford Raptor Forum Ford F150 Forum Ford F100 Forum  
JEEP Jeep Forum      
PONTIAC Pontiac G8 Forum      
SRT SRT Viper Forum SRT Cuda Forum