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Old 07-11-2013, 08:26 AM
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The biggest fairytale here is that you don't need extra cooling with these trucks. It's also a fairytale that that a 180 tstat and oil cooler will not help keep your engine cooler. If I were the OP, I would install a 180 tsat, oil cooler to feel for himself. Then later down the road a trans cooler and maybe even a aluminum finned trans pan. I've been on this forum for 4 1/2 years and I don't remember seeing one complaint of over heating from a person running a 180 tstat.(I could have missed them) There are lots of people on here who think that a 180 tsat is harmful to your engine and I believe seanbeckaroo is one of them...pardon me if I'm wrong.
Actually, I don't believe a 180 Stat is harmful, I've ran one in my 460. I don't believe it is "cure all" and "MOD Booster" some claim it to be. For the OP's purpose, I believe he has more of a problem than a TSTAT. I personally run a stock stat because it is the optimal temperature for complete combustion; running a cool engine decreases efficiency, I prefer to run the vehicle where it was designed for complete combustion. On the occasions when I tow, the temps I encounter are fine for me with a stock thermostat. If I were to tow a very heavy load, I would probably have got gotten a truck better designed for that. The facts are, thermostat will simply open and close to try to maintain a desired set point. If the temperatures are over 220, Air-flow and coolant is likely going to help more than a 180 stat that is already full open.

You run your engine cold, that is fine, I'll run mine where is designed for complete combustion and optimal fuel efficiency. There is NO scientific proof that concludes running a 180 stat increases performance, engine life, or any other fairy-tale.
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i have become fond of using the royal purple radiator additive to assist as well. its called purple ice, not only helps with the seals in your system, but adds a few cooler degrees to your operating temp. may help a tad bit with a 180 tstat in there.
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In an "old school" engine running a 180 thermostat was probalby fine, but on these new computer driven trucks, wouldnt a lower temp thermostat mess up the sensors and other computer driven components that was design for 203 thermostat? I have no proof or anything I'm just asking???

To the OP, I have a feeling that 7,700 lbs trailer is just a tad to heavy for a 1500 truck. I see you're in BC, depending where you live, your "hills" could be a mountain to us out east...

I have 27 ft around 6,000 lbs loaded trailer, and I think it feels close to the max for my truck.

If you go to the trailer towing forums, I am sure the "weight police" will say it's overweight, these guys always like to remind everyone 8,500lbs tow capacity is measured with one 150 lbs guy in the truck, not a full tank of gas, and no other gear or passengers. That 8,500 lbs, is probably more like 7,500lbs towing
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In an "old school" engine running a 180 thermostat was probalby fine, but on these new computer driven trucks, wouldnt a lower temp thermostat mess up the sensors and other computer driven components that was design for 203 thermostat? I have no proof or anything I'm just asking???
That is correct however 180 is typically not low enough to cause issue.
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So who here has a 2013 and runs a 180 T-stat?? I have to say the points by RadioFlyer makes total sense, I am not saying other points stated are not valid, on the other hand until someone chimes in with a 2013, I am still a little reluctant, I have a long trip in about a week towing our TT, its 26 ft and weighs in at about 5400 lbs loaded, so its well within towing capacity of my truck. I may have a chance mid-trip to change it out the thermostat. I may just do that for comparison reasons, or I may just look into the oil cooler mod that I think Outdoorsman added to his truck with very good real world results, I just don't understand why the oil and water run so much hotter on these trucks, my 2010 ran a lot cooler.
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Cooling is cooling, oil, trans and coolant. cooler fluids will help boost performance (to a point).

I tow my 7000lb boat, and for awhile my truck was stock. It didnt have a problem with it, but like most here have said, I opted to cool my truck down.

I have an additional oil cooler, power steering cooler, transmission cooler, a 180* thermostat, and I plan on doing the heat-sinked oil pan and an E-fan in the very near future.

With a gas engine, you dont have to worry about it being too cold as long as you dont live in canadia or alaska . Seriously, as long as your op temp is above 120 and never goes above 200 or so, you should be good. I will check again on my trip today (unloaded), but I am pretty sure my truck never goes above 150.
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