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Old 08-27-2013, 02:52 AM
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so im running a 2.5 inch level up front in my 2012 hemi, and some 275 65 20 duratracks, and the passenger side up front tires has always wonr funny for some reason scrubbing the outside of tire. which is givin gme a terrible wobble and a hard pull to the passenger side. so got out the measureing tape and their is almost an inch and a half higher on the passenger side.

so im assuming this is causing the tire to wear uneven which results in more wobble.

so will bilsteins solve my problem if i take out the spacer and instll bilstiens, im hoping truck sits more even, and eliminates tire wear, then get new tires and good to go?

is death wobble still possible with bilsteins?

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Shocks don't cause and can't eliminate DW.

Worn front end parts cause it and need to be replaced to eliminate it.

Do you really have DW, or just the shakes? I find most of the time someone says they have DW, the don't. DW is enough to make you chit your jeans. And full blown DW seems awful severe for such a new truck with just a level kit. Shakes, even bad ones, wouldn't be too surprising though and could be from half a dozen different things, but shocks probably aren't one of them.

If you aren't up for diagnosing front end wear by yourself, I'd start by just taking it to a good alignment shop, tell them what's going on. They'll check out all your front end parts for wear and make sure you are properly aligned. All for about $60 or so. Could end up saving you a ton of time and possibly throwing money blindly at parts. It's probably going to need something, like ball joints maybe, but no sense replacing anything until it has been definitely diagnosed.

The only way new shocks will cure your lopsided front end is if the cause it a blown shock on the low side. But even then, shocks shouldn't be holding a full inch of ride height - that's what the springs are for.

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ya I don't think you have death wobble. have you seen it? youtube it...it's extremely violent.

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First off, to clarify... Death wobble is not even possible on a Ram 1500 as they have IFS. Death wobble occurs on solid axle front ends (ie. 2500 and 3500's). So that's not what you're experiencing.

As DAA said, start with an alignment. If you're tire is scrubbing like that it is probably out. There's no other reason for it to be doing that. If one side is aligned properly and one side isn't that could easily give you that 1" difference in height. I would bet the alignment solves your problem completely.

If you still have the problem after that it's time to pull the front end back apart and make sure the leveling kit was installed properly. I don't see how it could be screwed up... but dumber things have happened.
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pretty much agree with everyone here, the bilstiens will prevent over extension of the stock suspension up-travel and avoid part fatigue on ball joints due to downward over extension travel you can get with Spacers. I have had mine on the truck for a year now, and love them, truck rolls super well, my tires are sweet and evenly used. Something to look into for sure
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First off, to clarify... Death wobble is not even possible on a Ram 1500 as they have IFS.
DW most definitely is possible with IFS. Far, far less likely with IFS, but it can happen. I really don't think it's what the OP is experiencing though, not with an IFS truck that new, with just a leveling kit.

Experienced DW from the passenger seat in an IFS rig about two years ago. More scary from the passenger side as I felt totally helpless to do anything about it. In my best friends '99 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4 - had 215K miles on all original front end parts. I ended up replacing all four ball joints, the pitman arm and the idler arm to get rid of it. Strangely, the tie rods were loose as a goose but he was out of money for new parts in one day so I left the old ones in and the DW has never come back even though those totally worn out tie rods are still there.

I also experienced DW semi regularly in a very worn out old '74 Chev 3/4 ton 2WD truck I owned a million years ago.

Other than that, all the times I've had it or witnessed it has been with SFA's. Jeeps, mostly.

But I'm just dragging this off into the weeds. I highly doubt the OP actually has DW and for all practical purposes, it's probably not too far wrong to just say it doesn't really happen with IFS.

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i have gotten 3 wheel alighnemenst in last 6 months never solver anything, they said it wasnt out much if any, any of the times
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What did they blame the poor tire wear on then? And the pulling to that side? No alignment shop worth the name is going to send a truck out the door with those symptoms saying "it's just fine".

Something is causing those symptoms. It's their freaking job to find it. And it shouldn't be that hard. Worn out stuff is pretty easy to tell if you have an alignment rack and take that stuff apart all day every day like they do.

Sounds like first thing you need to do is find a new shop.

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What did they blame the poor tire wear on then? And the pulling to that side? No alignment shop worth the name is going to send a truck out the door with those symptoms saying "it's just fine".

Something is causing those symptoms. It's their freaking job to find it. And it shouldn't be that hard. Worn out stuff is pretty easy to tell if you have an alignment rack and take that stuff apart all day every day like they do.

Sounds like first thing you need to do is find a new shop.

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DW ain't nothin will you ride in a lifted jeep that's got it bad. X2 when you're running disconnects. it will make you think the wheels are trying to fly off in 2 separate directions while tearing the vehicle in half. It really gets into harmonics like sound waves and will jerk the wheel in your hands.

other than that. you can get a wobble from unbalanced tires, alignment (I'd look there first) your pull is almost a dead ringer (for me) of an alignment issue.

Other things that might be of an issue is worn tie rod ends, or bushings/ball joints and steering linkage stuff, but again, that causes minor vibrations. and generally not pull.
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