DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum

Go Back   DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum > Dodge Ram Forum - Help Zone - Dodge Ram Problems, Complaints, & Solutions - Maintenance & Re > 4TH Generation Dodge Ram 2009+ Dodge Ram Trucks > Suspension


Notices

Suspension 4th Gen Dodge Ram Suspension Problems and Questions


Latest Vendor News
AutoAnything
Addictive Desert Designs!
United Radio
Bayou Goat Mounts

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-16-2013, 08:24 PM
Tippmannr Tippmannr is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Newcomer
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 15
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2010 Ram 1500
Trim Level: Sport
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:10
Tippmannr is on a distinguished road
Default Airlift 1000's...

Looking to buy some airbags. I was just wondering if with just 5PSI in them if they will left the back of the truck anymore than stock when you don't have a load on. If they do i might need some Bilsteins to

Also are the onboard compressors worth it over purchasing one from Walmart that will plug in a cigarette lighter for $20?
Thanks.
Nice forum by the way!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #2  
Old 05-16-2013, 08:32 PM
brandonjansen's Avatar
brandonjansen brandonjansen is offline
Lifted Cummins Fanatic


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
Age: 22
Posts: 6,063
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 CCSB 4x4
Trim Level: Laramie Limited
Color: Mineral Grey Metallic
Engine: 2011-20?? 409ci (6.7L) Cummins Turbo Diesel 350hp 800lb/ft
Rep Power: 8
Rep:1990
brandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant future
Default

Nope, with 5 PSI in they won't lift the back end at all. It rides exactly like stock. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't add Bilsteins

I bought the WirelessOne compressor because they have a $50 rebate on so it made it a little more affordable. I really like the convenience of just sitting in my truck and pressing a button to inflate or deflate my bags whenever I need to. It makes it a lot easier to fine tune exactly how much pressure you want to ride well.

Here's a link to a thread I just posted comparing two loads with and without the Airlift 1000's. You might find it interesting.

http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=142443
__________________

2012 Ram 3500 Laramie Limited Cummins Build Thread
8" BDS Long Arm Lift with Fox 2.0 Shocks | Dual Fox 2.0 Steering Stabilizer | 37x13.5 Toyo MT's | AMP Powersteps & Bedstep | Bakflip G2 | Mag-Hytec Rear Diff Cover | 5000K Morimoto HID's (lows and fogs)
H&S MiniMaxx Custom Tuned | 4" Flo Pro Stainless TBE | Sinister EGR Delete | ARP 425 Head Studs | 4.56 AAM/Yukon Gears | S&B Intake | Instagram: @brandonjansen
Guide to Leveling & Wheel and Tire Sizing for 06+ 4wd Ram 1500's
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-28-2013, 12:06 AM
EdmontonRam EdmontonRam is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Newcomer
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 9
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2011 Ram Crew Sport
Trim Level: Sport Crew
Color: Silver
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:10
EdmontonRam is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonjansen View Post
Nope, with 5 PSI in they won't lift the back end at all. It rides exactly like stock. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't add Bilsteins

I bought the WirelessOne compressor because they have a $50 rebate on so it made it a little more affordable. I really like the convenience of just sitting in my truck and pressing a button to inflate or deflate my bags whenever I need to. It makes it a lot easier to fine tune exactly how much pressure you want to ride well.

Here's a link to a thread I just posted comparing two loads with and without the Airlift 1000's. You might find it interesting.

http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=142443


Hi,

I am putting the air lift 1000 air bags in my truck and also bought the onboard compressor. I have two questions for you if you would be so kind to answer them for me.

1. Where did you tap the ignition wire for the compressor harness?

2. Where did you mount the compressor on your chassis ?

Thanks for any help you can provide. Im so excited to get this installed.

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-28-2013, 01:54 AM
brandonjansen's Avatar
brandonjansen brandonjansen is offline
Lifted Cummins Fanatic


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
Age: 22
Posts: 6,063
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 CCSB 4x4
Trim Level: Laramie Limited
Color: Mineral Grey Metallic
Engine: 2011-20?? 409ci (6.7L) Cummins Turbo Diesel 350hp 800lb/ft
Rep Power: 8
Rep:1990
brandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EdmontonRam View Post
Hi,

I am putting the air lift 1000 air bags in my truck and also bought the onboard compressor. I have two questions for you if you would be so kind to answer them for me.

1. Where did you tap the ignition wire for the compressor harness?

2. Where did you mount the compressor on your chassis ?

Thanks for any help you can provide. Im so excited to get this installed.

Thanks
For the ignition source I ran a relay off the TIPM. I built a bracket to mount behind the battery for 2 relays. One for the airlift compressor and one for other miscellaneous items. Then to turn the relays on I just found a keyed source under the dash and tapped into it since it would only be drawing minimal power.

I mounted the compressor on the subframe above the spare tire. I figured it was fairly protected from weather up there and made it very easy to run all the airlines and wiring.
__________________

2012 Ram 3500 Laramie Limited Cummins Build Thread
8" BDS Long Arm Lift with Fox 2.0 Shocks | Dual Fox 2.0 Steering Stabilizer | 37x13.5 Toyo MT's | AMP Powersteps & Bedstep | Bakflip G2 | Mag-Hytec Rear Diff Cover | 5000K Morimoto HID's (lows and fogs)
H&S MiniMaxx Custom Tuned | 4" Flo Pro Stainless TBE | Sinister EGR Delete | ARP 425 Head Studs | 4.56 AAM/Yukon Gears | S&B Intake | Instagram: @brandonjansen
Guide to Leveling & Wheel and Tire Sizing for 06+ 4wd Ram 1500's
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-28-2013, 02:21 AM
EdmontonRam EdmontonRam is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Newcomer
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 9
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2011 Ram Crew Sport
Trim Level: Sport Crew
Color: Silver
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:10
EdmontonRam is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonjansen View Post
For the ignition source I ran a relay off the TIPM. I built a bracket to mount behind the battery for 2 relays. One for the airlift compressor and one for other miscellaneous items. Then to turn the relays on I just found a keyed source under the dash and tapped into it since it would only be drawing minimal power.

I mounted the compressor on the subframe above the spare tire. I figured it was fairly protected from weather up there and made it very easy to run all the airlines and wiring.


Thanks for the fast response.

Is there any way you could show or tell me how you wired up your relay and where you grabbed the trigger wire from ?

Thanks again

Edit: I would be willing to PayPal you some beer money for your effort ?

Last edited by EdmontonRam; 08-28-2013 at 09:40 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-28-2013, 08:43 AM
snrusnak's Avatar
snrusnak snrusnak is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Orlando
Age: 27
Posts: 13,388
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: SLT
Color: White
Engine: 2008-20?? 287ci (4.7L) PowerTech V8 310hp 330lb/ft
Rep Power: 12
Rep:1385
snrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud of
Default

I run 10psi all the time and it sits level. I have 9 inch long bags(not the 12 inch long bags that come with the ram kit) because my truck is lowered in the rear to be level with the front. I use a bicycle pump to fill them, takes about 10 pumps to get to 35 psi(max psi). This will obviously vary by size of the pump. I just couldn't see spending a lot of money to get a compressor, especially hard wiring one, when the bags use such little volume of air. I bought a mini hand pump and leave it in the truck for if I need to add air on the fly, it takes more like 50 pumps to get to 35 psi, still not bad.
__________________
Sean

Breathing in and out is good enough for me.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-28-2013, 04:23 PM
brandonjansen's Avatar
brandonjansen brandonjansen is offline
Lifted Cummins Fanatic


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
Age: 22
Posts: 6,063
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 CCSB 4x4
Trim Level: Laramie Limited
Color: Mineral Grey Metallic
Engine: 2011-20?? 409ci (6.7L) Cummins Turbo Diesel 350hp 800lb/ft
Rep Power: 8
Rep:1990
brandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EdmontonRam View Post
Thanks for the fast response.

Is there any way you could show or tell me how you wired up your relay and where you grabbed the trigger wire from ?

Thanks again

Edit: I would be willing to PayPal you some beer money for your effort ?
Well I can't show you as I no longer have the truck.... but I can explain it to you the best I can.

First off, have you ever wired a relay before? They are very simple to do, the relay itself actually shows you what wires to hook up where (in a way).

There's 4 (sometimes 5) prongs on a relay. Two of them are for your straight through power (from the main power source to the item you want to turn on) and 2 of them are for your switch. For my set up I ran power directly from the bolt on the TIPM, through a fuseable link, to the connector on the relay labelled "30". Then from the connector labelled "87" (directly opposite from your main power wire) I ran the wire to the compressor. Now the other two prongs left (85 and 86) are for the switch. One of them needs to be wired to a ground source. The other to a keyed source. To find a keyed source just get under your dash with a test light and see what's on keyed power. I believe I tapped into the control for my 4wd. It was the easiest one to get to and I knew what I would be tying in to. If you have 4wd just pull off the center bezel and test the wires that go to it... one of them will be keyed and I just spliced into it.

As far as mounting the relays go, I just built an aluminum bracket that bolted to the same spot where the battery tray bolts too and screwed the relays into it. That way it was a nice, clean install.

Hopefully that answers most of your questions. If you need anything else just let me know.
__________________

2012 Ram 3500 Laramie Limited Cummins Build Thread
8" BDS Long Arm Lift with Fox 2.0 Shocks | Dual Fox 2.0 Steering Stabilizer | 37x13.5 Toyo MT's | AMP Powersteps & Bedstep | Bakflip G2 | Mag-Hytec Rear Diff Cover | 5000K Morimoto HID's (lows and fogs)
H&S MiniMaxx Custom Tuned | 4" Flo Pro Stainless TBE | Sinister EGR Delete | ARP 425 Head Studs | 4.56 AAM/Yukon Gears | S&B Intake | Instagram: @brandonjansen
Guide to Leveling & Wheel and Tire Sizing for 06+ 4wd Ram 1500's
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-29-2013, 12:10 AM
djbock's Avatar
djbock djbock is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I O Way
Posts: 91
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Ram 1500 CC
Trim Level: Laramie
Color: Deep Cherry Red Crystal/Bright Silver Metallic
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:37
djbock is on a distinguished road
Default

Sorry for the hijack but I had a question on these bags as well. Do you have to inflate to the 35psi, apply load then drop psi to desired height? Or do you apply load then inflate the bags?
__________________
2012 1500 Laramie CC 4x4/Hemi/Deep Cherry Red Crystal, Bright Silver Metallic
MODS: Volant CAI, 20% Tint All Around, Diablo Trinity w/Hemifever, Magnaflow Cat-Back, Daystar 2.5" Lift, BP Catch-Can, LuVerne 3" Polished SS Tube Steps, Magnaflow Y-Pipe, Fuel Throttle Chrome 20x9 +1 with Nitto Terra Grapplers 295/60R20, 85mm Ported Throttle Body
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-29-2013, 12:16 AM
snrusnak's Avatar
snrusnak snrusnak is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Orlando
Age: 27
Posts: 13,388
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: SLT
Color: White
Engine: 2008-20?? 287ci (4.7L) PowerTech V8 310hp 330lb/ft
Rep Power: 12
Rep:1385
snrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud ofsnrusnak has much to be proud of
Default

You're supposed to inflate before loading.

I did inflate to 35psi AFTER putting 2,250 lb in my bed recently though and although it sagged like crazy it handled it ok. Would have sagged less if I inflated first.

__________________
Sean

Breathing in and out is good enough for me.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-29-2013, 03:32 AM
brandonjansen's Avatar
brandonjansen brandonjansen is offline
Lifted Cummins Fanatic


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
Age: 22
Posts: 6,063
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 CCSB 4x4
Trim Level: Laramie Limited
Color: Mineral Grey Metallic
Engine: 2011-20?? 409ci (6.7L) Cummins Turbo Diesel 350hp 800lb/ft
Rep Power: 8
Rep:1990
brandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant futurebrandonjansen has a brilliant future
Default

Yes, you are supposed to inflate them first as it's the bag pushing out wards on the coil that reduces the sagging. If they're already sagged and then you add air you aren't helping your sagging problem at all, just the ride quality.
__________________

2012 Ram 3500 Laramie Limited Cummins Build Thread
8" BDS Long Arm Lift with Fox 2.0 Shocks | Dual Fox 2.0 Steering Stabilizer | 37x13.5 Toyo MT's | AMP Powersteps & Bedstep | Bakflip G2 | Mag-Hytec Rear Diff Cover | 5000K Morimoto HID's (lows and fogs)
H&S MiniMaxx Custom Tuned | 4" Flo Pro Stainless TBE | Sinister EGR Delete | ARP 425 Head Studs | 4.56 AAM/Yukon Gears | S&B Intake | Instagram: @brandonjansen
Guide to Leveling & Wheel and Tire Sizing for 06+ 4wd Ram 1500's
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Advertisement






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:05 AM.


= Copyright RamForumZ.com a Gigathreads.com Network Site =Ad Management by RedTyger
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vB.Sponsors


=Gigathreads Network=
CLUBS MOPAR NATION DSM GPMM MAMM JAM
DIESEL Diesel Forum      
CHEVY Chevy Camaro Forum Chevy Volt Forum    
CHRYSLER Chrysler 300C Forum      
DODGE Dodge Avenger Forum Dodge Caliber Forum Dodge Challenger Forum Dodge Charger Forum
  Dodge Circuit Forum Dodge Hornet Forum Dodge Magnum Forum Dodge Nitro Forum
  Dodge Ram Forum Dodge Dakota Forum Dodge Durango Forum Dodge Dart Forum
FORD Ford Raptor Forum Ford F150 Forum Ford F100 Forum  
JEEP Jeep Forum      
PONTIAC Pontiac G8 Forum      
SRT SRT Viper Forum SRT Cuda Forum