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Old 09-06-2013, 07:21 AM
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If you idle your Ram a lot, this brief article I read this A.M. may be interesting.

It's more cost effective to restart your car instead of letting it idle for
30 seconds or more, research shows.

For every hour a vehicle is idling -- which is when the engine is running
but the vehicle is not moving -- it it uses an estimated 0.2-0.7 gallons
(0.75-2.6 liters) of gas. A common belief is that restarting a car’s
engine uses more fuel than idling, but if a car idles for more than 30
seconds, it might be more fuel efficient to turn off the engine. Figures
can vary depending on the specific vehicle, fuel cost and usage, but
turning off the engine and restarting it instead of idling would save an
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Ah Start-Stop technology ring a bell. This is the wave of the future of current car manufacturing.
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Diesel in my opinion is an exception to the rule (until I heat it up), if the wife is with me. R...
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Diesel in my opinion is an exception to the rule (until I heat it up), if the wife is with me. R...
Is diesel really an exception to this rule?

I think the only reason they are is because the engine itself is very large and hard to start. So if you cut your diesel on and off as many times as you do a gas you will start needing a starter and batteries..possibly.

Just from a quick glance on another forum it looks fairly close to the gas counter part for how much is burned an hour with a diesel.
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i dont think $650 could convince me to start my truck 6 times as often as I need to. You are gonna start going through physical parts, starters, etc faster...wouldn't you? Plus I can only think of emergency situations where a car in hurdling at you from behind and welp...you can move because your truck is off. whoops. Good thing you saved 0.1 gallon of gas, now you're dead. Plenty of times Ive had to pull up so someone didn't hit me from behind.Now obviously if I'm idling in a parking lot waiting for someone, i shut the truck off. But not driving around/lights/traffic. It can't be good to start and stop the engine that much...it has to outweigh the gas price savings. Knowing my luck it'd be the day the truck wouldn't start back up and I'm be stuck in the middle of the road. I'd rather it not start in a parking lot/my drive way.

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Fully agree with gonefishin's post above ^^^ That's pretty much my exact outlook on it as well.

I see it all the time. People in border line ups for example shutting off their car every car length they move up. Think about how much of a drain that is on your batteries every time they start it and then not giving them time to charge back up. Then there's the starter itself, you're wearing it out 10 times as fast. So yes you might be saving a slight amount of money in fuel but you're putting that right back in to batteries and starters. So what's the point? Obviously that's more of an extreme case though.

I definitely will shut off my truck if I'm going to be waiting more than 4 or 5 minutes without moving an inch. But like Kyle said, that's waiting for someone at a store or something like that. Now with my Cummins I even rethink that.... they don't like to be shut off and started again that often, they like to run. I'd way sooner turn up the high idle and let it run to save wear and tear on my engine than save a few bucks on fuel.
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I wouldn't shut my engine off while on the road except in extreme circumstances (i.e., utility work and you can tell you'll be there a few minutes), but I'd never sit with the truck idling waiting outside a store for someone.
I see people at my office in their car, idling, eating lunch with the windows down, parked in the shade. I don't get that at all.
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I pretty much agree with everyone else.

Having said that. I have a car that has auto start/ stop technology and I worry that it's going to wear out the starter and/ or batteries at a significantly greater rate. I know both the batteries and the starter (as well as other internals) have been engineered for this, but when I have my car shut off at a light or stop sign, and it then starts back up for me to move ahead 10 feet, only to shut off again. I just have to wonder.

For those who are curious, it's a Honda CR-Z. I often refer to it as my Go-Kart. To be honest I wouldn't buy another one, as for a Hybrid the mileage sucks (31/37) and the ride is quite rough due to it's short wheel base.

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