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whats the blue thing in the spring? mine does not have that? maybe that was improperly install and causing the spring to work improperly
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It's an air bag to level the back when towing. The previous owner of my truck had them installed.
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It's an air bag to level the back when towing. The previous owner of my truck had them installed.
thats what i though

is there any air pressure in it? maybe to much?
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I will try and crawl under it tomorrow and snap some more pics. I am not sure what they are called but there are two rods that go from the rear end forward that are designed to keep rear end from rolling, slight play in one bushing but not the other. I plan to have dodge look at those Monday.

Yes they are firestone airlifts. Immune +\- 20 lbs in them when I am towing otherwise keep them deflated which is where they are in the picture. I have test driven both with and without air to see if there is a difference. Not really possible to install improperly, the bags are made to fit these specific springs, pretty much put them in and run airline.
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Gotta say after having my truck on a lift today, and I have airbags as well, that doesn't look good at all.

It almost looks like the coil wasn't put back into place just right but that is kind of hard to mess up.

Interested to see where Kurtis is going as one of my weak points is knowledge on suspension items.

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I will try and crawl under it tomorrow and snap some more pics. I am not sure what they are called but there are two rods that go from the rear end forward that are designed to keep rear end from rolling, slight play in one bushing but not the other. I plan to have dodge look at those Monday.
Those are the rear connecting rods you're looking at. They stop the axle from moving front/rear and rolling along the axle axis. There shouldn't be any movement in the bushings, so you'll want to have them looked at for sure.

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Gotta say after having my truck on a lift today, and I have airbags as well, that doesn't look good at all.

It almost looks like the coil wasn't put back into place just right but that is kind of hard to mess up.

Interested to see where Kurtis is going as one of my weak points is knowledge on suspension items.

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In a parallel 4-link system, you need a way to prevent the axle from moving side-to-side, and that's the reason for the panhard bar. If the axle has moved that much, then there's an issue with the panhard bar.
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So here is the update, after bing without my truck for a eight days and counting, Chrysler says that they have determines the drifting problem to be my tie rods. They have ordered them in but will not be finished until Tuesday or Wednesday. Of course this is not covered under power train.
The reason for being gone eight days is they finally addressed the rear end pinion bolt recall and I guess mine was less than 50lbs so they did a full rebuild. I also asked them to re-look at a rough idle problem I have been having for the last several years. After a round and round they have decided they need to rebuild one of the heads. The other head was replaced 6 months ago after the check engine light kept coming on. At least these are still under warranty.

This is my 4th Ram and by far my favorite, but I have never had so many things go wrong with a vehicle, especially being under 47,000 miles.

I'll let everyone know if the tie rods fix the drift, when I do.
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Update to the update:
I know this will likely surprise everyone but, The Dealer was wrong! After replacing the front tie rods, there is no change in the problem. I met with the mechanic who did the work yesterday and he looked clueless when I asked him about the rear suspension, which I put on the original work order that I felt was where the problem was. He had not even looked at it.

After refusing to pay the $454 for the unneeded tie rods, I went home and took things apart myself. I am 95% certain my rear upper control arm bushings are shot. Of course the team assigned to my truck is off today so I decided to order some heavy duty aftermarket uppers and lowers plus the pan hard bar. (Might as well upgrade it all.). The new ones are adjustable so I should be able to add 1/2" and later increase it if I ever get my 6" lift.

If anyone is interested I will post pictures of the bad parts and what I am putting on to replace them.
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Picked up the Spohn adjustable bars?
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I was also told by a local off-road performance shop that this is the 4th encounter in two months that they have seen of this. The other 3 were with 6" lifts.
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