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Old 11-12-2013, 09:57 AM
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Hey all, I have 2700 miles to go for my first oil change and I am wondering does the Ram come from the factory with synthetic or fossil oil?

Should I go with synthetic, i tend to let the dealer do the changes as I just dont feel like rolling around under a truck at my age anymore. Loved it when I was younger.

Why synthetic over fossil? Does it improve mileage or protect the engine better. I have seen the debates of synthetics (mobile 1 vs, QS, vs Pennz etc).

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I am uncertain whether the trucks come with synthetic or fossill, but you can at anytime go to synthetic if you so desire. There may be a slight mpg gain with synthetic, but there are several advantages to going with synthetic. In cold weather symthetic does not thicken up and so it flows much better at start-up, withstands higher heat better and significantly less internal engine wear. If you prefer not to do your own oil changes, you can instruct your dealer or mechanic to add synthetic.
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^^^ What he said ^^^

Also think about costs, synthetic oils allow between 10,000 and 20,000 mile change intervals but Chrysler, in the owners' manual, allows the use of synthetic oil but says to maintain the published oil change interval.

I think if I lived in a climate where my engine was operating in a higher temperature environment, and in city stop and go traffic, I would use synthetic. Since I don't, I will stay with the dyno oil.
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Yep I live up in the mountains in Arizona, Still warm summers (not Phoenix warm but still) and snow in the winters. I think I may make the switch as I need this truck to survive for years Thanks for the responses.
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Dino or synthetic as long as you change it regularly your engine will last a long time.
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There is a difference , I run Mobil 1 synthetic at 5,000 mile oil change
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For your piece of mind get a test kit from Blackstone Labs. They will give you a print out of all contaminants and condition of oil. Change at Chrysler's spec until warrantee is over. I change Penzoil Platinum every 15,000 miles, Blackstone suggests 20,000 but oil is so cheap. Chrysler uses Penzoil Platinum for a factory fill, I believe, Penzoil Ultra in the SRT8's. I use a spec 15,000 mile change filter Fram XG, but if you change at 5,000 mi, the Mopar one is fine.
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I understand synthetic but these oil change recommendations are too long for a seasonal climate with hot/cold and condenstation resulting in water drops on oil , consider 15,000 miles for me thats 2 years of driving on the same oil , not good imop I change my oil every spring at but never over 5,000 miles on the oil, basicly most years I run 8,000 miles on the truck
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Synthetic is good for clean-running engines....like turbines...where it can be allowed to go for a long time/interval.
Piston engines, especially in cars/trucks that start/stop daily...make dirt. The oil must be changed frequently. This rules out the economics of synthetics.

All mineral oil comes from wells all over the world in pipelines, trucks, and tankers and get dumped into the refinery all together, then put in different labelled bottles with wildly varying prices depending upon marketing/advertising budgets and foolish believers.... But if the oil meets the latest EPA and vehicle warranty standards (if it has a starburst symbol on the label) it is essentially the same stuff regardless of price.

Buy the cheapest that meets the warranty and change it often. Pep Boys will do a conventional oil change for $19.95. I do it every 4K miles since new.

My last car went 330,000 miles on WalMart Supertech and whatever else was cheap and only went off the street when it was rear-ended by a woman driving a Class A motorhome while texting. SuperDuperOil claims are B.S.

All major brands meet warranty and will do the job, and the Chrysler MS spec is virtually meaningless. All it does is pertain to extended oil change intervals (if you are so foolish as to actually USE their 8K mile change interval). If you change the oil more often that standard doesn't even apply. Shell, Valvoline, and lots other common motor oil all meet the standard anyway.

So.... quit this silly wringing-of-hands and go buy a cheap oil change and do it frequently. Change your air filter more frequently than Chrysler's silly 30K recommendation also. Do it every 6 mos or every third oil change or...??? but change it. Often. (Your engine burns 7 times more volume of air than fuel, so guess which needs to be cleaner?)

Change your oil. Drive your truck. Don't worry. Be happy.
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Buy the cheapest that meets the warranty and change it often. Pep Boys will do a conventional oil change for $19.95. I do it every 4K miles since new.
So when I spend $60 on synthetic and a good filter every 15k miles guess who is spending more. Not me and I am staying within the warranty and the truck will last just as long as you doing it every 4k miles.
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