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Old 12-09-2013, 07:53 PM
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So I've seen several towing threads and everybody's opinion, two cents, whatever. I've been on youtube to get more input, and so I thought I'd add mine to help add to the mix or to whatever, but here goes.

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2013 Ram 1500 Express 5.7 Hemi Quad Cab 3.92 axle with HD engine and tranny cooler.

The Trailer
2013 Keystone Cougar 28RBS. Dry weight is 6,300 lbs 32 feet

The Tow
I've recorded a not so high quality of the dash board going up the Conejo grade on the southbond 101 Freeway in Ventura County California. This is a 2 mile 7% grade from about 200 feet above sea level to approximately 900 feet above seal level.

Tow/haul engaged 89 octane gas from Unocal 76.

Me, wife and two kids under 8 plus say about 100 pounds in the bed and the trailer probably weighed in at close to 7,000 lbs.

The video

At cruise on flat land I can tow at 60 MPH at about 1,800 - 1,900 RPM. Up this grade you will see the MPH drop, but when the RPM kicks up to 3,500 it accelerated up to about 55 MPH at which time I let off to just maintain 55 MPH.

Gauges at Start
Coolant 204
Trans 116
Oil 210

Gauges at Top
Coolant 213
Trans 132
Oil 242

Overall I was very impressed. Very pleased with the way the truck pulled up the grade and I felt very comfortable that I was not pushing the truck. I felt like I had a lot of gas pedal and power left. You can hear the engine but IMO its the exhaust note more than anything else.

Based on these results I feel confident tacking larger mountains (Grapevine) etc. I will probably take it slower though as those are larger and longer hills.

Also, it puts that stupid video on youtube from Chatanooga Ford or where to dust. Based on my towing experience with a heavier trailer these tards must have picked up the Ram that was not geared for towing and/or were flat out lying. Just not possible!!!! I can reach 70 with my trailer easily without flooring but not so if you believe these guys.

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Nice report, thanks for sharing especially since my wife and I are looking into getting a larger travel trailer, this is encouraging. But never had any doubts these rigs are very, very capable.
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Thank you So Cal CPA for your honest and real to life towing experience. That Grapevine will make fully loaded Semi's cry for a break half way up that thing. When you decide to tackle that hill, please record and share my Ram brother!
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Great post. I pull Sherwin grade out of Bishop, CA a couple of times per year. Your Ram will eat the Grapevine. Don't worry about it.
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I have pulled 6000 pounds over 2000 miles so far in my 13 Ram Laramie with 3.21 gears. Even with the crap gears, I never have problems getting the truck up to speed or climbing hills. Something is off in that test. I couldn't even finish that video because of the awful bias it has. This is coming from a guy that was born and raised a Ford (I still road race a Mustang) and my last truck was an F250. I test drove the big three and picked the best by a long way.
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I have a 2500 but still a Hemi. 3.73 gears and pulls my 9500 lb 35 foot travel trailer very well. No problem with hills or getting up to speed. I average 10Mpg at 60-65 towing which is about what most gas engines seem to get.
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2013 Keystone Cougar 28RBS. Dry weight is 6,300 lbs 32 feet

This has a tongue weight of over 900lbs..how did that affect your truck? Are you running airbags?
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The California I-5 section of highway called the GRAPEVINE is only a 5% or 6% grade & it reaches a height of 4,183 feet at Gorman

The Cajon Pass on I-15
At an elevation of 4,190 ft (1,280 m) the Cajon Pass (pronounced /kəˈhoʊn/)
12 miles at a 6% grade

The road that i usually drive twice a week has what i refer to as a Hill

I-8 at the Mountain Springs/In Ko Pah grade is routed down two separate canyons, as the freeway descends 4,000 vertical feet in 11 miles. This is one of the widest medians on the entire Interstate Highway System. In places, the median is over 1.5 miles (2.4 km) wide. I-8 also has the lowest above-ground elevation of any interstate at 52 feet (16 m) below sea level near El Centro, California.
It goes from Sea Level to over 4,140 feet at a 6% grade at times
Within 70 miles the highway raises & dips at least 3 times, reaching just under 4,200 feet 3 different times. It is at Sea Level at the east side & 70 miles West it reaches 880 feet in my town

By the way, the California Transportation Dept claims that no California Highway reaches Mountain height
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2013 Keystone Cougar 28RBS. Dry weight is 6,300 lbs 32 feet

This has a tongue weight of over 900lbs..how did that affect your truck? Are you running airbags?
Yes airbags and weight distribution hitch are employed. Both keep everything level and balanced.
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I really like the test and how you filmed it.

The only concern I would have is if the grade is longer and higher altitude. The RPM's are causing your oil temp to go up and the temp would probably continue to move up if the grade and test had continued.

My vette that I run on road courses has a dry sump holding 10 quarts and my temp even with a large cooler can really get high due to the RPM's. Per chevy engineer I went to a higher viscosity oil to reduce the possibility of shearing.

Higher temps will stress the oil and require more frequent changes. Maybe a larger oil cooler if you do that run often.
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