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Old 03-07-2014, 12:32 PM
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Well I'm at the shop getting all my performance mods installed.

The headers drew some looks of frustration. I asked what was up and my mechanic indicated dip stick was in the way and to remove entailed removing a motor mount. I suggested we call ARH support to verify and my mechanic disappeared and when he returned he announced it was an 8+ hr job. The one bolts right up but the dipstick side is a bigger on the '14's.

Figured the next guy might appreciate knowing .

My mechanic said it'll be done by days end. I'll keep you posted on the outcome.



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Well I'm at the shop getting all my performance mods installed.

The headers drew some looks of frustration. I asked what was up and my mechanic indicated dip stick was in the way and to remove entailed removing a motor mount. I suggested we call ARH support to verify and my mechanic disappeared and when he returned he announced it was an 8+ hr job. The one bolts right up but the dipstick side is a bigger on the '14's.

Figured the next guy might appreciate knowing .

My mechanic said it'll be done by days end. I'll keep you posted on the outcome.



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Not sure if the 2014's are the same as the 12's but this is pretty much what all the 12 guys have to do.

"Oil dip stic k tube - (playing with this thing took the most time for me) Before mounting the headers, unbolt the oil d ip stick tube bracket at the engine b lock, the tube pulls straight up and out. I ended up cutting this little bracket off with a dremel to get it back in between the 3rd and 4th tubes; cut it, if you bend it off it will leave holes in the tube. the tube takes some finessing to fit it back after the header install. You shouldnt have to bend it much, when you do bend it make sure the pressure is not on the portion that is inserted into the engine block; x2 the tube doesnt require much bending at all. I wouldnt recommend bending it in place; insert it into the engine block, position it centered between #3 and #4 tubes (not rubbing the tubes), mark where you need to bend, pull it, and bend it on something round; I used the 1ft drop from the OEM exhaust tube. After that bend you may need to bend the upper section away from the steering shaft to keep it off the boot, and up to make it easily accessible from the engine bay. I bent and clamped the long bracket on the tube to the A/C compresso r tube clamp instead of mounting it back to the header bolt."

source is not from bully's performance this was posted in a public place Z rules state I can not post the link sorry guys. However there are many many people that report back the same thing and have followed this guide for the dip stick issue, also might be worthy of note most who do the long tubes report back that the job took them between 8-12 hours to complete.

Like I said I do not know if it is the same on the 14's as the 12's and 13's as I have not had a chance to look under the hood of a 14 yet.

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Well knocked down that obstacle and re-routed a few things. Now if I only had 4' of the premium SS straight pipe

That's the gap between the ARH'S and the Magnaflow catback.


Might tcut and tack part of the OEM pipe for now. Don't want to use the cheaper stock pipe as a permanent solution.

Should have ordered that piece from Maggy. No one in town carries the good stuff.



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Maybe you can answer this one for me. Do the ARH headers move the cross over pipe that goes under the transmission pan?

Really interested in these but I have already had some custom work done that might make these even more of a challenge.


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Well knocked down that obstacle and re-routed a few things. Now if I only had 4' of the premium SS straight pipe

That's the gap between the ARH'S and the Magnaflow catback.


Might tcut and tack part of the OEM pipe for now. Don't want to use the cheaper stock pipe as a permanent solution.

Should have ordered that piece from Maggy. No one in town carries the good stuff.



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Sometimes headers just are not worth it, I know for my truck they cost over $2,000 plus labor and mids for 30hp????????? Are you kidding..........
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Or you can leave the dipstick where it is and slowly cook it like I have When it gets warmer I'm going to bend the tube a bit and wrap it in some header wrap to protect the next dipstick.

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Maybe you can answer this one for me. Do the ARH headers move the cross over pipe that goes under the transmission pan?

Really interested in these but I have already had some custom work done that might make these even more of a challenge.
There was no issue with my '07 with the ARH kit when it came to tranny pan clearance. Now, on the '09 I have a deep pan and not even the stock mids cleared the pan so I just ordered the headers and had my exhaust guy fab up custom mids.

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Sometimes headers just are not worth it, I know for my truck they cost over $2,000 plus labor and mids for 30hp????????? Are you kidding..........
Man, the Viper Tax is crazy on headers. I'd still install them myself just to save a buck then drive it to my muffler shop to build the mids... same thing I did with my ARH.
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As stated, the simple solution is to bend the dipstick. It's not like youre going to break it
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Or you can leave the dipstick where it is and slowly cook it like I have When it gets warmer I'm going to bend the tube a bit and wrap it in some header wrap to protect the next dipstick.



There was no issue with my '07 with the ARH kit when it came to tranny pan clearance. Now, on the '09 I have a deep pan and not even the stock mids cleared the pan so I just ordered the headers and had my exhaust guy fab up custom mids.



Man, the Viper Tax is crazy on headers. I'd still install them myself just to save a buck then drive it to my muffler shop to build the mids... same thing I did with my ARH.
Still not worth 30hp for $2,000.00
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Still not worth 30hp for $2,000.00
Close to what I've spent on mine so far between purchase, coating, and fabbing the mids. Worth it to me since I'm running 12-15psi from a procharger and I want all the outflow I can get.
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Yup, had the same headache when we got to the dipstick. Literally took hours and massive amount of frustration on that one bolt.
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