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Old 04-16-2014, 09:22 PM
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My business is purchasing me a new vehicle. We've driven SUV's for years, and the gas mileage sucks. Since I have full personal use of the vehicle (including towing my 7,000 pound travel trailer), I talked the Boss into letting me get a pick-up truck. I drive about 30,000 miles a year, and I pay for the gas, except for when I am on a business trip.

My thinking is that a pick-up will tow the camper without any issue at all, and with a nice watertight tonneau cover, I can secure my company gear and keep it dry. And, as an added bonus, I think I can average 22-23 miles per gallon, which is better than the 17 I am getting now.

So, I'm looking at a Ram 1500, maybe the 'Outdoorsman' package, maybe the 'Sport'. The truck looks sharp, and is fun to drive! I know what the salesman told me as far as the mileage ratings and towing capability, but I am looking to hear from you guys - the actual owners.

Also, if there are any owners of the new EcoDiesel, I'd love to hear about the capabilities of that set up too.

And, I'll be right up front - I am also looking at the F-150 with the EcoBoost set up too. It looks good, rides awesome, but I like the interior of the Ram better.

I'm really split down the middle on what to buy, and am looking for honest comments to help me decide.

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I would go for an EcoDiesel if you will be driving long distances and towing a lot. I like the fact that the Outdoorsman has an option for a front bench seat but that's just me.
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Good luck on an Eco-Diesel. They only scheduled 8000 for this year, and all were spoken for in three days!
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I would go for an EcoDiesel if you will be driving long distances and towing a lot. I like the fact that the Outdoorsman has an option for a front bench seat but that's just me.
I agree with this. 7k is beyond the capability of the V6, and the Hemi will not get you the mileage you want. The diesel should be able to turn out high teens on the highway while towing MPG wise. High 20s unloaded.

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Good luck on an Eco-Diesel. They only scheduled 8000 for this year, and all were spoken for in three days!
I think the 8,000 number was just for the first allotment of the year. Also, the last time I was at the dealer they did have 4 Ecodiesels that were dealer orders, so they are not all spoken for (or weren't as of 2 weeks ago).


For what its worth, The Hemi/8 speed Rams seem to actually get a bit better mileage than the Ecoboost Fords-and I'm not just saying that because I drive one. From what I have read on F-150 forums, here, and other Ram forums, this is the case. I also do get better mileage out of my truck than my friends with Ecoboosts do. I do keep my foot out of it, but I can get about 18.5 combined out of my truck, and I have seen over 22 on the highway. My friends with Ecoboosts get around 17 or so, and they only get about 14 around town, whereas I get more like 16.5.

Those turbos stay spun up a lot of the time, especially in the city with stop and go driving-and while the turbos are going you aren't going to be getting V6 fuel economy. The 8 speed transmission helps the Hemi stay in 4 cylinder mode a lot of the time, even up slight inclines and during light acceleration.

But drive a Ford, and drive a Ram, see which one feels better to you too. You may want to wait for a 2015 if you decide on the F-150, because they will be introducing a smaller displacement Ecoboost, and cutting a lot of weight with the aluminum body.
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Good luck on an Eco-Diesel. They only scheduled 8000 for this year, and all were spoken for in three days!
It was 8000 in the first allotment cycle, orders are still being accepted and build for 2014 if the dealer has space in their allotment.
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"I do keep my foot out of it, but I can get about 18.5 combined out of my truck, and I have seen over 22 on the highway."

I can confirm the mileage above. I personally have a six speed Hemi 2013, but rented an 8 speed Hemi when visiting home and the mileage above was right on what I got for the week I was there.

Pretty amazing for such a beast in my opinion and the shifting on the 8 speed is smooth as silk. I only noticed one tiny glitch as an ever so slight hesitation or really a delay (split second) when stepping on the gas vs the six speed. Dont' know what that was all about, but it was more of a difference between the two and not really a problem.
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You can pull 7000 lbs, or get 23mpg, but not at the same time.

Get a 2500 cummins. Maybe even an older one if you are into that. The Gen 1 trucks have a certain appeal...

Find an older Sprinter van. I had the long, tall version; over 90k miles I got almost 25mpg, and was averaging over 27 at the end. It had the 5 cyl 2.7L diesel.

Or get the V6 1500 and trade in your trailer for a lighter one.
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