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Old 05-11-2014, 09:22 AM
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Default Hitch Install - 2 Questions

Newbie here...great forum!

I don't tow big loads, just the occasional utility trailer, therefore I've put the Curt 13333 hitch on my 2014 Ram.

1) For the main bolt that goes through the step bumper (in front of the license plate), the instructions call for 380 ft/lbs of torque. Of course my wrench doesn't go that high - 200. Any ideas on how I can achieve this without buying a $700 torque wrench?

2) Before I put the hitch on there was a plastic cap where that main bolt now is...that cap doesn't fit on anymore and I have this ugly gold bolt showing with the hole...what do they do for OEM - is there a different cap I can buy? Maybe it'll fit back on once I get it torqued to 380 fb/lbs?

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Old 05-11-2014, 10:13 AM
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I just installed my MOPAR hitch, I just tightened that bolt down as much as I could get it which was pretty tight. A bolt that size can take a bit of over torque, if can snap off that nut you're Superman. The load is on the shank not the nut so I didn't worry about the exact proper torque.
Also the OEM hitch comes with an oversize plastic cap that snaps on the bolt head for a nice clean finished look. Got my MOPAR OEM hitch off ebay for $119, the local Dodge dealer wanted $400 to install the same part, simple install but this is the second one that I've done, took basically 15 minutes.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:18 AM
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Yeah the cost differential is why I didn't care about it when I noticed at the dealer it didn't have a hitch. Supposedly the Curt hitch is "OEM Style" so I assume that means the same as MOPAR just made by curt.

So you just cranked down on it as hard as you could? I put mine at 150ft/lb. and that's pretty tight.



But yeah, took me 15 min too, and that was with my 3 yr old son 'helping'!!

I'll look for that cap to get a cleaner look.
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Is this what you are looking for:

http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/T...lier/8063927.p
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I just put one on too. It came with a rubber cap in the box, a little thicker then the stock one you took off. I almost threw mine out
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To get 380 ft-lb you need a cheater bar, just a pipe that you slip over your socket wrench.

I had to apply 250 ft-lb on the ball nut of my hitch. My torque wrench went up only to 150 so I set that aside. Torque is the pressure you put on any wrench (in pounds) times the distance (in feet, using the English units) from the point you apply the pressure to the center of the bolt - assuming the pressure is applied at a 90 degree angle to the arm of the wrench; that is basic physics. So for this I decided to use my weight which is 165 lb. The torque is 250 lb x 1 feet = 165 lb x Y feet. Solve for Y. That turns out to be right at 1.5 feet. So I put the cheater on the socket wrench, measured out from the center of the bolt 1.5 feet and put a mark there on the cheater. Then I just kneeled on that point with the cheater horizontal, using all my weight. When it turned past horizontal I just pulled it back up using the ratchet (remember the force has to be applied in a direction 90 degrees from the arm).

Since I was doing this on the ball nut I just turned the stinger 90 degrees from its normal position in the receiver so the ball and nut were on the sides. Then I could apply my weight as described.

That's right, you don't need a torque wrench to torque things properly! I often use a fish scale to apply smaller amounts of torque with an ordinary wrench.

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I suggest that you go to the Etrailer website
Then order a Class 4 hitch receiver
Ram did not mount any Class 3 hitch that i have seen, since at least going back to the 2009 Ram 1500s, maybe some cheap skate dealers put them on

Class 4 hitches have 3 parts
Hitch receiver w/ hardware
Ball Mount w/ pin, you can get these in straight, dropped, & raised styles
Hitch Ball, comes in different sizes
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I just got a class 4 hitch put on from U-Haul. If you remove their labels its stamped CURT. it was right around $200 installed and they added the cap that covered the hole by my license plate.
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No sure if you have any Truck ( Big Rig) repair or service shops they will have a torque wrnech big enough and I doubt they would charg you to just snug that down. It woud take less than a minute. A hand shake should get you by.
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Default Main bolt needed for class IV hitch

Got rear ended and the body shop removed the hitch in order to replace the bumper and didn't reinstall the main bolt that goes in the hitch through the bumper. Need to know the size of the bolt with thread length. Any help will be greatly appreciated as i just bought a travel trailer that i would actually like to keep on the hitch, lol.
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