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Old 06-18-2014, 07:43 PM
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Hey guys, wondering if anyone has the trufftruck rear springs in there truck ? I see they have springs for 25% and 50% load increase and maintain stock ride height. Wondering how much the ride would stiffen up on our 1500's. Thinking of going this way over airbags and don't mind if it is a bit stiffer back there.

Just don't want to have that saging rear end when it's loaded up. Thanks.
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If you want to keep the factory springs and have your truck level with any legal load, you should get TLC™ Air Suspension.

I may be biased on this………..but I have talked to people who got heavier springs and then still got TLC…..I don't believe any coil spring can carry a heavy load and provide a smooth ride.

Yes, TLC is more expensive than plastic sleeves that go inside the coils, but TLC is rated at 5,000+ lbs v. 1,000 for those "other guys". And with TLC you keep the coil springs (some systems replace the coils completely and if those air bags blow out, you're probably stuck on the side of the road).

Lots of info including great install pics and video from Z members in our Vendor Forum. Happy to answer any questions.
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Just installed the 25% springs. Ride height stayed exactly the same. I thought there would be some un sprung lift there but it stayed right on. Your ride is a little stiffer. I personally love them. I pull a trailer occasionally and don't get near the sag before I hook up my WDH. You can tell the stiffness in turns. The truck stays reel flat. Again, the ride is still good but you can tell you have a stronger rear suspension under you. I went ahead and installed the Pro comp pro runner front struts and the pro runner rear shocks shortly after. I have the daystar front leveling blocks and I used he struts for stock height. They make everything come together. Good luck and you can't go wrong with the springs. I do believe they recommend the 50% if you carry a load most of the time. This tells me they are going to be on the stiff side. I had 4 wheel parts install mine. I understand it's easy to do if you're not 64 years old.lol
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Thanks for the info boys. I think I am just going simple with the springs up here in the north I don't want to mess with air. Although your system looks very good. Just looking to get rid of that sag when I tow or have a load. If it could reduce the sag with a load it am good with it tighter back there. Hey Fat Frank any up dates on your towing would be great. Any pics or idea how much less sag you have with the new springs over stockers. Thanks again for your info boys.
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I used the 25% Springs. Not the 50's. My concern was worrying about putting stuff in the bed when hauling the TT. You understand a WDH is about a foot behind the truck which noticeably Increases the sag when you first engage the TT. With the stock springs, I could bottom out the rear if I let the jack up on the TT without 1st connecting the torsion bars. I did this the 1st time just to see. With the new springs, not nearly as much sag but it's still there. Picture putting a boat trailer ball on your truck about a foot behind where it normally would ride. OK, how about getting on a see saw and moving all the way out to the end. Got the picture. The 50% springs should be very stout. If you haul a lot, they could come in handy. My truck rides good now. But it's a truck and not an escalade. Didn't even think about it but I could have used my electric trailer brake to pick up the rear of my truck to exchange the springs. For the price, I might try them. Good luck with your choice.
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Make sure you get the variable rate springs. Whatever tuff truck spring you find, add a v on the end of the part number. Absolutely the best mod I made.
Going from bags, to springs. I'll take the springs 100% over the bags.
Unlike the recommender for the bags, I'm not biased
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Make sure you get the variable rate springs. Whatever tuff truck spring you find, add a v on the end of the part number. Absolutely the best mod I made.
Going from bags, to springs. I'll take the springs 100% over the bags.
Unlike the recommender for the bags, I'm not biased
I was hoping the variable rate springs would cure my bottoming out BUT after a few hundred bucks and some work on the first tow the truck bottomed out with my camp trailer and 4 wheeler loaded in the truck. After the TLC system was a failure and the variable rate springs were a failure I finally bit the bullet and bought the 2500. Good luck with that.
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I was hoping the variable rate springs would cure my bottoming out BUT after a few hundred bucks and some work on the first tow the truck bottomed out with my camp trailer and 4 wheeler loaded in the truck. After the TLC system was a failure and the variable rate springs were a failure I finally bit the bullet and bought the 2500. Good luck with that.

You probably over loaded your payload capacity. No offense.

We're full-time pulling and the 50% is the route I'm going with Airlift bags. Tongue weight is 770lbs. Using Proride WD/Sway hitch.
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I have the TTC 1223 on my 09 and love them. I started out with air bags didn't like them at all. I tow a 20x8.5 cargo trailer that weighs something in the rang of 4000 lb with a load of 4000 lb +every day. The truck will sage a little but never bottoms out. Its stiffer then stock but dose not bother me at all. I would say go for it. your wont regret it. The best mode I have made on my truck to date.
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I JUST bought the Tuf Truck 1223V - the variable rate springs which is supposed to be the best of both worlds, same ride as stock and up to 30-35% stiffer than stock when compressed.

I also bought the Air Lift Air Cell Helper setup to keep the springs from bottoming out. Very similar to the Timbren setup. Will take pics once I get the gear and install it all, hopefully in two weeks.

This is to tow the Forest River travel trailer. 5800 pounds empty weight, figure about 7000 loaded (with food, gear, two Labrador Retrievers, rifles, ammo).
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