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Old 10-28-2010, 01:30 AM
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hey guys. i just bought a 2008 dodge ram 2500 6.7 cummins diesel today with some blu tec thing on it. how and can i blow black smoke with this without voiding my warranty? please help!!! new to the cummins world.
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Hello! I have the Blue Tech and it is a special emissions system that feels as though it robs our engines of power in order to save the world. From what I am learning, you and I need a small bit of work to have the "black smoke" effect. It will require a DPF delete that WILL cause you to fail an emissions/smog test and/or throw codes. Then a pyrometer is next suggested. Lastly a tuner. Not an easy task. But hang tight maybe someone else can help us out!
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i hope man. do you know if doing all that voids the powertrain warranty? cuz i have a lifetime powertrain from the dealership i bought from.
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To the best of my knowledge on this issue with our girls, YES it will void your warranty.
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I was/am looking at an entire Banks System from the Turbo to the exaust. Banks offers their own kind of warranty. Look it up! Great stuff.
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I was/am looking at an entire Banks System from the Turbo to the exaust. Banks offers their own kind of warranty. Look it up! Great stuff.
yea but will that void my warranty i have on the truck all together? like the powertrain and everything?
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If you modify the fuel system, you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
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Yes, anytime you mess with the computer program of a vehicle, it voids the warranty. It is usually up to the dealer and they will have to prove that the damaged component was caused by neglect or alteration on your behalf, of that component. You have to decide if the risk is up to you. I have a good rapport with my dealership so they usually take care of me. Many people have put these programmers/exhaust/dpf deletes and have had no problems, but to me, it isn't worth the risk. I have already been down this road once. Best of luck.
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Congrats on your new ride, you are going to love that thing! Don't take this wrong but why would you want to blow black smoke? I guess it looks cool when you take off from a light and smoke screen the person next to ya. I would rather watch others throw money out the tail pipe than modify my truck. I am very impressed with the way it performs stock, i pull a toyhauler to the woods in northern Az. with my bikes and quad. I guess i am just old school! The best part is that it don't smell like the ford n chevys when you are idling! Do you plan on lifting it? That is pretty nice looking, i have seen a few with at least a 6 inch lift. If i had a taller garage door or shop i would have lifted mine already! What kind of miles did it have when you got it? You got to pick up some magnatech diff covers, the highest priced but great quality and looks!
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Ok, apparently I missed this one yesterday. As an oil-burner junkie, I may be able to help ya on this one. The long and short answer is: you can't blow black smoke AND keep your warranty, sad to say, but smokin' requires some major modification to you fuel AND emissions system both of which will void your drivetrain warranty.

Black smoke is caused by an over fueling of the compression chamber, basically the smoke is poorly burned diesel fuel and while it DOES look awesome when you mash the skinny pedal, it means you're blowing money out your tailpipe. Now, if you keep your stock emissions system and over fuel, you will clog your DPF in no-time, and no matter how many cleaning burns you do, it will clog up and you'll have to see your dealer to have a new DPF replaced... and they will wonder why it happens so regularly with you, and a smart tech may start looking.

Now, the turbo-back systems have the lovely DPF-delete pipe, which, based entierly on your local laws, can be a good thing or not. If you live somewhere with strict emissions controls on diesels, then a DPF delete will be the bane of your existence, but if you're somewhere that doesn't do any diesel emissions testing then you're in the clear... just don't travel in the truck to states WITH testing or you either get ticketed or impounded for messing with FEDERAL emissions requirements. Now, being in Alberta I ahve no emissions requirements at all, so DPF deletes are common, in a lot of states it is illegal and strictly enforced.


Now, if you want to make serious power from the 6.7L's larger displacement and are willing to throw your drivetrain warranty out the window, then there is SO much you can do, ported injectors, higher pressure/flow fuel pump, air/fuel separator, turbo-back exhaust system (can we say stacks ), tuner with DPF delete capability (I recommend H&S miniMAXX or BlackMAXX), and once you ahve your fuel/exhaust system sorted out, then a large single turbo or compound turbos to get the A/F mix right.

Any more questions, feel free to ask, can you tell I love compression combustion engines? I just wish I had a cummins stupid PowerStroke.
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