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Don't do it.
The best way to increase gas milage is placing a raw egg behind the throttle peddle.
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Well i do appreciate the replies, sprintertech you need to lighten up bud, I threw something out there, nobody said I added this to my gas lol, wow...,being new to the forum and all, you could've been a little more discreet with you 2 cents

hehe.....thats me buddy...nothin personal.....and besides..ive done my part and got ur attention


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I respect your comments, I didn't take anything to heart, really, I kind of fell onto this information accidently, and just to set the record straight, I'm not going to jeopradize an investment as big as my truck, I more or less was hoping for objective opinions. I guess I was more curious about the properties of acetone, how it claims to help atomize fuel more completely thus producing slightly better fuel economy. I suppose I should have read and researched more before posting. I'm really not dissapointed with the mileaege my truck is getting. Like I said in my original post, I didn't purchase this truck for gas mileage.
Acetone disolves just about everything, is pretty volatile, and probably serves as a surfactant breaking down surface tension in the fuel. If the fuel molecules are less cohesive you would get better atomization of fuel by the injectors. The problem is that modern fuel injectors (when clean) also do a marvelous job of atomizing fuel on their own. I'm not sure you gain much of anything. Acetone is also probably a less dense engery source than gasoline (all though this is purely speculation on my part), and would therefore decrease milage in terms of distance traveled per fuel consumed, although the additional fuel in terms of the volume of acetone might give you a slight boost. Of course acetone is more expesive than gasoline so that's not a good trade off either.
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Well let me give you the "other" side of the story.

Will Acetone harm rubber and plastic...yes..over time..in 100% form. Since you add only 1.5 to 2 oz per 10 gal of fuel..that equates to 1660 oz of fuel and 4 oz of acetone in a typical 26 gal ram tank. That ratio will not break down rubber or plastic. I have been running it in a plastic tank with stock rubber fuel lines for over 150,000 miles and there is no issues with it at all. I drive consitantly the same route and with consistantly the same patterns of traffic and I average 34 mpg using it. And I can tell you from personal experiences, it does indeed increase mpg. This is all my experience in my 99 Dodge Neon. And I am a true believer that it works. Granted it costs a lot more now since the government is cracking down on home drug businesses..evidently acetone is used in the process. It used to be about $6/gal...but now it is about $14/gal.
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I'm certainly not trying to endorse this again but latitud, that's interesting. The only reason I continued reading more on this was the ratio they had used in their studies like you have mentioned, I suppose it may be more detrimental in a new vehicle fuel system. the question is.... would you run that in your new dodge!? Thanks for the input.

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I drive consitantly the same route and with consistantly the same patterns of traffic and I average 34 mpg using it. And I can tell you from personal experiences, it does indeed increase mpg. This is all my experience in my 99 Dodge Neon.
What is a 99 Neon supposed to get for gas mileage from the factory?
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29 mpg..and yes I have tested it with and without and there is consistantly 2 to 3 mpg more with acetone. The point being that after 150,000 miles there are no fuel tank failures, no rubber hose failures, no plastic fitting failures, nada...zip...so the ratio plays a key role in the "corrosion" that acetone should cause.

and yes I will defiently run it in the Ram and I have no worries about damage....How many people run a predator or other tuner? Do they not worry about damage? Why do so many ask if it leaves a "footprint"???? I would say run it and record the before and after results and decide for yourself. The only thing I would recomend is that you either store it in the original can, or store it in premixed glass bottles outside of the cab area. Carry a measuring cup and funnel if you leave it in the original can. For the record, it evaporates quickly when exposed the air...in a matter of seconds, but I don't doubt that it would cause paint damage it continually exposed and poured onto the paint. I myself have had no issues.

For the record I am running factory injectors, factory hoses and 250,000 miles later with no issues.
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Well let me give you the "other" side of the story.

Will Acetone harm rubber and plastic...yes..over time..in 100% form. Since you add only 1.5 to 2 oz per 10 gal of fuel..that equates to 1660 oz of fuel and 4 oz of acetone in a typical 26 gal ram tank. That ratio will not break down rubber or plastic. I have been running it in a plastic tank with stock rubber fuel lines for over 150,000 miles and there is no issues with it at all. I drive consitantly the same route and with consistantly the same patterns of traffic and I average 34 mpg using it. And I can tell you from personal experiences, it does indeed increase mpg. This is all my experience in my 99 Dodge Neon. And I am a true believer that it works. Granted it costs a lot more now since the government is cracking down on home drug businesses..evidently acetone is used in the process. It used to be about $6/gal...but now it is about $14/gal.
Since acetone is highly volatile and a very powerful solvent, it makes a good agent for use in the purification of many chemical compounds. It's also easy to obtain for the average person because it requires no license to purchase.

Out of curiousity is your neon a manual or automatic?
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It is a manual and still on the factory clutch..best car I have ever owned.
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My father had a neon from that generation and had all kinds of problems with carbon build up on the heads. Had to have it serviced under warrenty 3 times, and finally sold it before the warrenty expired. Perhaps your acetone is helping keep the engine clean.

On the milelage issue again, although I'm sure you don't drive highway exclusively, 34mpg is within the epa estimated range for that vehichle, tranny combination. Although I don't doubt that the acetone has probably helped keep the injectors etc. clean, and you might not be still getting that mileage otherwise, I wonder if you switched back to straight gasoline if you would see a change in mpg or not.

Also, although I find it somewhat suprising that you havent had any issues with seals, etc., your comment makes me wonder. Although your vehichle is not (at least to my knowledge) flex fuel, I wonder if flex fuel vehichles would be better suited to run gasoline blended with acetone since they are designed with fuel delivery systems resistant to the drying (somewhat corosive, at least in regards to rubber) effect of ethanol. Food for thought anyway.
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