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You are right most who pass the asvab will say it was relatively easy that why you passed it but a good group of todays youth can't do simple math without using a calculator. School cater to kids way too much I sat down with a young man and gave him the practice test which he failed when I asked what he struggled with he told me reading the questions. Now this young man was about 4 months away from graduating and when I asked him how he manages to pass his classes he told me the teachers read everything to him and he answers the questions. As far as physical requirements you have to remember every branch is different, and we all have our own standards, for us its 3 pull-up, 45 crunches, and 1 1/2 mile in 13:30. This is the day in age of video games and computers you have no idea how many time i put a kid on my pull-up bar and he can barley manage a wiggle.
True but I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult. Now pull ups I can somewhat understand. A lot of people have issues with pull ups (me being on of them) but the computers and video games do kill a lot of things not to mention doing the dumb stupid things that made childhood fun like sledding down a hill with a couch.
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I'm almost sorry I even saw this thread. I have two kids in school one a junior and one in the seventh grade. The junior made the national honor society this year and I am very proud of her. My boy...well, he struggles horribly in school for a lot of reasons and there dosn't seem to be much my wife and I can do to get him on the right track. But anyhow I see how poor the education is these kids are given today. The schools seem to be forgetting how to teach the three r's as they say. It's just not technical enough or something, here they just gave the middle school and high school kids laptops and are soooo proud of themselves for doing it. I had to run to the school awhile back and could hear a class in session where they were teaching how to use a search engine for Gods sake! These kids can't hardly write in cursive,... so many like my son struggle with basic math but by God he'll know how to search for something online. I can fully understand how kids have trouble with the asvab today they aren't taught the basics anymore....at least around here. They get a little of that and then it's straight to geometry which they can't do! Phhhtt....like I said I'm kinda sorry I found this thread.
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i work at the Marine Corp's School of Infantry-West and have seen the changes in the Corps. A few years ago the quality got pretty lousy. this was attributed to the need for the Corps to expand for the two wars which caused us to lower our standards. Now that the Corps is going back from 220k to 200k (and possibly 180k once a-stan is over) the quality is slowy getting better again. We are just seeing less and less "dumb but fit" high school athletes and more "smart but lazy" kids who joined up because they like play a lot of the "call of duty" duty video games.
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one last thing, the ASVAB is based of precentages relative to everyone else. if you get a 99% it means you scored better than nearly everyone else. failing is scoring less than 30% of the rest of the people that took it.
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Its pitiful....if the need arises for more recruits all that goes out the window and anyone will get in. OR drafted...ASVAB what????
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I've heard that the problem is the kids, the educational system, society, parents. I believe the problem of the kids not being able to pass the exam is the simple fact that they're not trying very hard. Today's kids are lazy, I think it's as simple as that, they will do only what they have to, in order to get away with it.

My wife teaches high school chemistry. She has discovered that it's next to impossible to teach those who don't wish to learn. There has to be effort on the part of the student in order for the teacher to effectively do his/ her job. If the students are not stepping up to the plate, it's up to the parents to make 'em step up. I've seen this first hand with my own son. He's very lazy (I'll admit he gets it from me, but I've learned that I've got to do what I've got to do), he will not do any more than he has to, nor will he put forth any more than the minimum effort, unless he's forced to do so.

As a parent, I take the time to make sure that he has all of his homework completed. I make sure that he studies for each and every test, often a few minutes every night, even if he doesn't want to. He does it anyway, afterwords I quiz him on the material. This typically will piss him off, but he learns the material. If the parents make sure their kids learn the basics, then we won't have so many ignorant teenagers and young adults that will grow up into ignorant adults.

I will step down off my soap box, but please, don't blame the education system, our teachers are doing the best they can with what they've got to work with, blame the parents and the lazy students

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Lazy kids, lazy parents, frustrated teachers, unmotivated administrators and a Federal system that thinks even the most brain dead kids should graduate with a 4.0 My daughter taught High School science/chemistry in a "combat school". What a nightmare! These kids did not care, and knew that they would pass no matter what they scored on a test. She was not allowed to give any grade below a 60%, even when they scored 2% on a test.

I don't doubt for a minute that this country is in trouble. With domestic terrorist running the white house and most of the government, what would you expect? Sorry for the soap box, just my 3 cents worth.

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