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Old 01-28-2011, 04:11 PM
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I call it 'The Grunt' when the traction control kicks in...that is really the only thing that bothers me...when I am trying to get into traffic and I have to pull out from a dead stop, sometimes it is hard to get going...I have gotten in the habit of putting it in 4x4 to get going otherwise it takes a bit and 'the Grunt' starts LOL
But as for the down shift I never really paid attention to it. but then again I am, pretty cautious when I drive on an icy road and I haven't had a problem.
I also read the thread where the truck rolled, but to be honest the safety equipment did it's job and I am just glad the driver was able to walk away from the accedent with VERY minor injuries.
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Personally, so far I am not a fan of all the "engineering" that went in to "traction control" on these new trucks. I grew up where there were no salt trucks or snow plows. The good Lord put the snow there and He took it off. I learned what to do if the vehicle fishtailed or started sliding. With this new fangled stuff, I have no idea how to react. Brakes start chattering when the wheels start spinning. You can't get enough wheel speed to make it up a slick hill. Now, I turn of the traction control when I get in, and if it is slick, I put it in 4L to get rid of the ESC too.

Before long the engineers will take all the driving out of driving and let the vehicles take over.
That is the exact reason WHY it's needed. Too many people today have no experience, training, or basic interest how to handle a vehicle in bad situations. It's the same deal with a manual transmission. Very, very few people have experience with them.

I took two introductory motorcycle classes (1 was a brush up after a bunch of years). The most difficult part for many people was understanding what the clutch does, why you need to up/down shift, and how to stop!
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I was bummed about the manual transmission too. I couldn't believe there wasn't an option in any of the 1/2 Tons from any of the manufacturers. All this electronic stuff takes the skill, and fun, out of driving. Maybe I need to go buy an old truck with a carb and stick so that my kids can see and drive one when they get old enough. And in the meantime, I will have something to play around with. I think that sounds like a good idea.
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The easiest thing for people to forget about 4wd is that it is 4 Wheel Drive NOT 4 Wheel Stop and on ice it becomes 4 Wheel Slide.
but, but the ads say i can climb mountains and go anywhere
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Remember guys I have driven in snow for 27+ years and this is the first vehicle I have seen this happen on. Again I am coasting to a stop or just coasting and at 60k's the tach jumps and the rear end locks up momentarily. It's not anything I can't handle but for southerners etc it could be an issue.
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Find that hard to believe too. i dont see a safety issue i see stupidity
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Find that hard to believe too. i dont see a safety issue i see stupidity
I don't see a safety issue.
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I have never felt a momentary "lock-up" of anything, just a downshift of the truck. A downshift should not create anything to "lock-up" It does make the tach jump a bit which helps slow the truck down (like in a manual car or motorcycle). It could be just inexperience in the driving conditions but then again, none of us were there and should not speculate on what actually happened. Just luckily the guy walked away from it and lives to tell his tale.
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I think this is a safety issue but only on limited slip differentials. In slippery conditions a down shift on a corner while braking could cause both rear tires to slide or fishtail. Not so much on one wheel peel. Just my two cents.
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Well personally, I got a truck with the 3.92 LSD just so it can go sideways! ;-)
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