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IDK who would be against anti-seize. Its probably the greatest stuff ever invented lol. I say this because the spark plugs on my LT1 Z28 are hard enough to change without the trouble of them being stuck. Havent done a swap onthe truck yet, that will be this spring.
There was a HUGE argument (with me spearheading the pro-antiseize side) on here about a year ago. The opposing side claims that with the coating on the threads of the plugs that antiseize isn't needed. I've changed enough plugs in 16 years to know better.
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I won't let a little argument between two people I don't know prevent me from putting anti-seize on plugs, especially going into an aluminum head.

I have dealt with too many aluminum/other metal issues galding together to even take a chance.

I used to work on HUGE vacuum pumps and compressors (NASH centrifugal pumps) and learned that anti-seize is your friend.
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I won't let a little argument between two people I don't know prevent me from putting anti-seize on plugs, especially going into an aluminum head.

I have dealt with too many aluminum/other metal issues galding together to even take a chance.

I used to work on HUGE vacuum pumps and compressors (NASH centrifugal pumps) and learned that anti-seize is your friend.

I can't see why anyone wouldn't. It's cheap insurance.
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I can't see why anyone wouldn't. It's cheap insurance.
Exactly, a little packet cost 99 cents... I do have a big jar but thats me. Why chance it, better safe than sorry,
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Big jar here, too. I use it on everything. ESPECIALLY stainless bolts on aluminum parts (seadoo engines, etc.).

If you don't those things will literally weld themselves together.
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Hmmmm...I used to pull 15.8 mpg AVG on my computer, approx 19-20 mpg on the flat highway.

Today, I reset it and ran 22-23 mpg on the flat, and after a round trip of over 100 miles, 19.0 AVG!!!

Yes, I realize the computer is not 100% accurate, and I have determined that mine is about .5 mpg off. but still, those are really good improvements following the throttle body cleanup.
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If you must take your truck to the dealer for work, always ask to stay and watch.
Keeps them partially honest if the owner is standing there watching.
Also if its going in for say an automatic service, lightly mark a couple of the bolt heads that hold the pan on with a crayon.
Then you can see if a socket actually ever went onto those bolts.
Stuff like that is easy to do, and helps you know if they actually did any work or not.

As for never-seize on spark plugs. Yes, always unless you like headaches.
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If you must take your truck to the dealer for work, always ask to stay and watch.
Keeps them partially honest if the owner is standing there watching.
Also if its going in for say an automatic service, lightly mark a couple of the bolt heads that hold the pan on with a crayon.
Then you can see if a socket actually ever went onto those bolts.
Stuff like that is easy to do, and helps you know if they actually did any work or not.

As for never-seize on spark plugs. Yes, always unless you like headaches.
Most shops won't allow this due to insurance regulations. Sounds to me like you have some trust issues with your dealer.
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Most shops won't allow this due to insurance regulations. Sounds to me like you have some trust issues with your dealer.
I have been screwed by a kawasaki, ford, and toyota dealer in the past.
I no longer trust a dealer, anymore than a politician.
In other words, not at all.

If my vehicle must go to a shop, I insist on staying with it, and watching.
Only a service dept wanting to hide something will say no.
The insurance thing is a good excuse for them though.
but if you check into it, at least at most places its an excuse, but not real.
If it was against insurance rules for people to be in the shop, how could a tech go there and work on your vehicle, or a salesman walk out there, or a lot boy come get a car, or drop one off in the shop, or a parts guy go back there.

My car had to go in for a warranty item, I drove it into the shop, watched it the whole time, and drove it out of the shop.
The tech doing the work on it said this "the sign saying no customers beyond this point due to insurance reasons, is the best excuse we can have to keep people out of here, but its not true, heck my wife and kids come back here even and say hello to me once a week".

One of my best friends owns an insurance company, and not one shop they insure has a stipulation in their insurance, that people are not allowed in the shop. I know because I asked him.
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If it was against insurance rules for people to be in the shop, how could a tech go there and work on your vehicle, or a salesman walk out there, or a lot boy come get a car, or drop one off in the shop, or a parts guy go back there.

Simple - we're all employees. Perhaps the insurance regs are a bit different in Canada versus the US. Aside from that, customer tend to get in the way and I don't think anyone, regardless of their occupation, cares for having someone over their shoulder when they work. When a customer stands over your shoulder, they inevitably start asking questions and this is a huge distraction (especially when we're doing warranty work which doesn't pay worth a damn). Personally, if a customer doesn't trust me, then I'd just as soon pass the work off to someone else.
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