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Old 02-14-2011, 02:28 AM
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I just spent the entire weekend changing the engine in my truck. 1999 Ram 1500 with 5.9 engine.

Got it all installed and now it wont start. I think I may have put the flex plate or tone ring or what ever it is called, on wrong. I dont think the crankshaft position sensor is sending the timing info to the PCM properly.

I checked the sensor with a volt meter and it is opening and closing properly.

Is there a right and wrong way to install the flex plate to "time" it properly?

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The flex plate will only bolt on one way. A DVOM isn't a good tool to check a crank sensor with. You need a lab scope so you can see if you have a good digital signal. Are you guetting fuel pressure, fire and an injector pulse?
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Yes it is firing. I do have fuel. It acts like it is trying to backfire, but it wont start.

Do you have to reset the computer to the new engine, it is still a 5.9.
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No, you don't have to reset anything but the cam/crank sync state but you have to have it running to do that. Are you positive the distributor isn't 180 degrees out?
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I lined up the timing marks on the crank shaft pulley with TDC on the timing cover then installed distributor with the rotor pointing to number 1 timing mark. While cranking engine I checked the timing with timing light and it is showing about 15 degrees before TDC.

Is it possible to get it 180 degrees out using this method?
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The engine balancer comes up on TDC twice per cycle...yeah, it is very easy to be be 180* out. You need to ensure the balancer is lined up on the TDC mark on the top of the compression stroke for cyl #1.

Pull the #1 plug and have someone spin the engine slowly while you have your thumb over the spark plug hole...you will know when you are TDC compression. The line up the mark and make sure the dist rotor is still pointed at #1.
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Thanks for the help. After reading your help posts I realized that the timing is in fact out. I will fix this after work this evening. Will post afterwards. Thanks again for the help
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Thanks again for all the replys. I had a "blond" moment on this. It was late (11pm) when I installed the distributor, and the next morning I failed to double check. I assumed I had done it right . I was not sure of the tone ring, since there was NO information about it in the Haynes book except a short paragraph that said if it was not right, the truck would not start.

The truck is now running and the post inspection for the warranty is complete. 3 yr unlimited milage warranty.
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No, you don't have to reset anything but the cam/crank sync state but you have to have it running to do that. Are you positive the distributor isn't 180 degrees out?
How do I reset the sync?
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You need a scan tool to do this. Use the tool to go into the set sync screen and adjust the timing as close to zero as possible.
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