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Old 07-22-2011, 01:31 PM
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Naw...^^^^ all the parameters revert to stock so they won't be able to see what isn't there.

Besides, their scan tool won't do a full diagnostic interogatory on the PCM. If they are suspicious, they'll send it to CJD's lab.
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Naw...^^^^ all the parameters revert to stock so they won't be able to see what isn't there.

Besides, their scan tool won't do a full diagnostic interogatory on the PCM. If they are suspicious, they'll send it to CJD's lab.
The "paramaters" are just settings, the recorded data log is completely different.
How does removing the tune erase your stored data and driving patterns?
It cant, you have to have a logged history for diagnostic purposes...that's the primary purpose of the OBDII. (On Board Diagnostic)

Are you saying that simply removing the tune and returning to stock only erases the times you exceeded the stock parameters and leaves your normal driving data intact? hahah, no way jose'
Based on what a Tech has told me personally, you cant pick and choose what to erase, and you also cant bring in a truck with the slate wiped clean of all driving history...that alone is a "Red Flag" that you had a tuner installed.

Dont kid yourself, I've talked to several Tech's now and the ones who know tuners, definately know what to look for. You may fool some rookie, but there is NO guarranty you wont run into a smart one.

Anyone installing a tuner is taking a risk, period.
If your warranty is more important than performance, simply dont do it.

I dont really care about my warranty, if my power windows or A/C goes, naturally I want that fixed because it's not likely to be traced back to a tuner issue.

However, If I'm racing my Ram at the local track and my trans goes up in smoke, it's pretty damn likely my fault for reving it 800 RPM over stock and I'm willing to pay for the repair on my own dime. That's the way it should be.

Anything less shows a complete lack of integrity.
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I dont really care about my warranty, if my power windows or A/C goes, naturally I want that fixed because it's not likely to be traced back to a tuner issue.

However, If I'm racing my Ram at the local track and my trans goes up in smoke, it's pretty damn likely my fault for reving it 800 RPM over stock and I'm willing to pay for the repair on my own dime. That's the way it should be.

Anything less shows a complete lack of integrity.
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I was only referring to the parameters you changed (speed limiter, rev limiter) that revert to stock when you unload the DSP program. The standard data logging will continue and is not affected by the tune or removal of the tune. It will still note how you operate your vehicle, which is certainly an individual choice, and the operating conditions at time of impact or failure of a major vehicle component.

Any modification to your vehicle is a risk. Assessing that risk is something most vehicle owners do before they mod. The alteration of your computer program has varying levels of risk. Adding a canned tune is a low risk but, I'll agree, a risk. Where a higher risk occurs is if you decide to manually change the spark settings at WOT, fuel % at WOT, set a higher RPM limit, etc...

And whose integrity are you referring to?
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I believe what he meant was that if for example I were to trash my engine at the drag strip by revving it to 8k rpm, then set the computer back to stock and take it to the dealer saying "it just broke", then I would have no integrity...
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I would agree with that. ^^^^

Just wondering whose integrity was being called into question.
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I get his points, but they are a little extreme, im not buying the tune to turn my truck into a dragster. Its a 5800 pound 4x4 crew cab, i just was interested in a tune to help get a bit more out of the truck and heard it even helps the fuel economy. If i was turning it into a racetruck and beating the hell out of it, then yea, i wouldnt be so worried about my warranty. In this case, its a stock truck with a muffler.
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I agree with that. ^^^^ I added it because it works, I have not had any problems with my SRT that has a Predator and a CMR tune, and I also know what I can and can't do with the tool.

My needs were engine efficiency, better HP / torque and mileage.

I got them all and it ain't blown up yet!
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Second that. In all reality, if you take care of your vehicle, and drive it with care, you pretty much won't need your powertrain warranty (unless you have some issue like the rear diff issue that is a chyrsler fault). Even if I bough a new vehicle, I would do my own maintenance (voiding the warranty, as they said to keep the warranty it would have to all be done by ase certified person), just because I don't think I'd ever need the warranty. Now electronics, AC, etc...that's a different story.
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I like hearing that from someone that has 2 of them and has ran them for years with no issues...Mine shows up tuesday, and I'm not afraid!!! Thanks Michael! You all have brought up great points.....each person has to decide if they want to take a very small chance. My dealer won't be a problem, because my friend took his 2010 SRT-8 Chally in with a broken rear halfshaft....still had the Drag radials on it and voila! New halfshaft!!! He also has a DSP!
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