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View Poll Results: Synthetic after Dino Oil in High mileage Engine
Yes ---- switching is fine 27 77.14%
No ----- your asking for trouble 8 22.86%
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:00 PM
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To my way of thinking
All of the motor oils have additives for anti wear & anti viscosity break down, as well as a detergent additive
Whether it is Dino or Synthetic motor oil, your engine normally would stay clean & have very little wear, we notice a lip or ridge in the cylinder wall near the top of the piston, it is made by the rings. On a poorly serviced engine its easy to see & FEEL that ridge.
It is not the fault of the oil that that ridge is there, its just poor maintenance, leaving the oil in the engine for extended periods of time, longer than the OIL companies recommended mileage is the fault

I read something today that i thought everyone should know
EXXONMOBILE does not take used dino oil & re-refine or reprocess it, none of the big oil companies do, it would cost too much.
the used oil is sent to outside companies
This alliance will help inform consumers about the importance of used motor oil recycling, as well as the proper way to do it," said Charlie Rau, global environmental advisor, ExxonMobil Lubricants & Specialties. "For instance, used motor oil can take on a whole second 'life' through re-use as a fuel in environmentally sound cement kilns or power plants, thus, conserving natural resources and helping to protect our environment."
http://ir.exxonmobil.com/phoenix.zht...591&highlight=
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what highlandchef said is dead on.
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Looks like you went ahead and did it. I was gonna suggest that you install the proper weight and also do a flush do there is no DINO oil residual left over to mix with the new Synthetic Oil.
Dino oil and synthetic oil start as the same crude oil as it comes out of the ground. Most major oil manufactures market a blend of the two as well, hence castrol SynTec blend. The dont mix the two types myth really needs to get laid to rest



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Well i went ahead and changed it. Autozone had a sale on 5qt of mobile 1 and a mobile 1 oil filter for 26 bucks. I've gone about 300 miles since the oil change and i haven't seen any problems yet.
Good choice!!! Cant beat the savings on big brand deals
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Dino oil and synthetic oil start as the same crude oil as it comes out of the ground.
That is only partially correct. Group III synthetics do start out as mineral oil (dino), group IV and V do not.

Group III synthetics are highly processed (hydro-cracked) mineral oils (dino). They have many of the same characteristics as other synthetics, the major exception being their low temperature flow. They are however much cheaper and have become the most common available synthetic. Most Group III oils will likely have some Group IV and possibly Group V blended in but are primarily Group III. Castrol Syntec is an example.

Group IV oils starts out with ethylene gas that is built up to create the PAO base stock. Amsoil is primarily Group IV with some Group V in the mix.

Group V oils start out as esters derived from plant fatty acids. They are mixed with Group IV oils. RedLine is an example.


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The dont mix the two types myth really needs to get laid to rest
Agreed to an extent, while changing back and forth between the types is fine making your own blend is not necessarily a good idea. It won't do any harm but you are unlikely to get the best from the mix. If you want to save money, use a commercial blend.

Now IMHO I don't believe the commercial blends are worth the extra price over regular dino oil since the mixture is unknown. So my guess is you may be paying a premium for no gain. I use full synthetic (Amsoil) because I believe it does a better job in my vehicles. YMMV
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While I havnt tried it on a light duty gas motor I have tried it on larger engines.

Ive changed a heavy diesel over at 600,000 miles.

1. No leaks
2. Slightly lower oil consumption (From 1 gallon every 17,000 miles to every 20,000 miles).
3. Doubled oil change intervals from 30,000 to 60,000 miles (Based on used oil analysis). Extended that to 100,000 miles with a Spinner II Bypass System.
4. 3% Gain in Fuel Mileage (Also switched from 15W40 to 5W30).

Net savings were approximately $2200 a year.

Any gains in engine life from switch from a Group II Conventional to a Group III or IV Synthetic will be minimal.

A Bypass filter will have more effect on engine life (extending it around 50%) than the oil. The cheapest bypass filter to operate (no disposables) is the cleanable Spinner II (Same as Mann-Hummel). They do make these in smaller sizes that are sized for pickup size engines.
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