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Old 10-04-2011, 01:00 AM
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I'm at a huge factory disadvantage with heavy stock tires/wheels, a crap load of TM, and weak 3.55 gears and an open rear differential.
4WD is also adding extra weight most racers dont have to deal with.

So to overcome those obstacles and make them work for me instead of against me,
I needed to be creative with how I spend my money to run with cars with way more HP and/or lighter weight than my 5300 pound brick.

A complete re-gear for both diffs and a rear locker would have been $3300 (installed) up here.
Instead I achieved about the same results as an R/T, maybe even better, with an even better Torque Converter and Dedicated DR's (4.30:1 effective gear ratio) for under $2k.
That golden combo is enough to beat a stock R/T, that cost $2k more than my 4x4 and is pretty much useless on the roads in the winter here for up to 6 months a year on snow/ice covered roads.

The main difference between an R/T Ram and mine (that may explain some of the animosity) is I made a mid 15 second truck run 13's in 2500'+ DA
The R/T is a already a pre-packaged 13 second truck bone stock that most owners are only getting mid 14's with.
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Prius! "I was drag racing" "In a prius" "I don't win much"
LOL funny movie...and charlie day was great in it!

The thing I like about BRH is that his truck is not only fast on the track, it is also pretty fast on the street. I don't see the point in track prep for a DD if it ends up slow on the street, at least that's my opinion, because I drive about 1,500 miles a month, and love driving, so I want it to be quick on the street not just on the track. I've known people who spend half a day removing weight(whole interiors, etc...) just for the track to lose a couple tenths at most, then the next day they reassemble the car....I understand simple things like going with less than half a tank of gas, maybe removing spare tire...but beyond simple things it doesn't make sense to me...that's why it's called a DD lol.
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Nice driving.. I miss my track days... when I had my srt4 I was so excited when I took out my first srt8.
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Garner has more races with his truck at 16 than everyone in this thread combined and that's an under statement, lol!
lol Obviously you don't know me very well....I might just have more races in a Ram truck than everyone on the forum and a few others combined.
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Yupp RandTX is probably gonna be the first qc in the 11s
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I'm at a huge factory disadvantage with heavy stock tires/wheels, a crap load of TM, and weak 3.55 gears and an open rear differential.
4WD is also adding extra weight most racers dont have to deal with.

So to overcome those obstacles and make them work for me instead of against me,
I needed to be creative with how I spend my money to run with cars with way more HP and/or lighter weight than my 5300 pound brick.

A complete re-gear for both diffs and a rear locker would have been $3300 (installed) up here.
Instead I achieved about the same results as an R/T, maybe even better, with an even better Torque Converter and Dedicated DR's (4.30:1 effective gear ratio) for under $2k.
That golden combo is enough to beat a stock R/T, that cost $2k more than my 4x4 and is pretty much useless on the roads in the winter here for up to 6 months a year on snow/ice covered roads.

The main difference between an R/T Ram and mine (that may explain some of the animosity) is I made a mid 15 second truck run 13's in 2500'+ DA
The R/T is a already a pre-packaged 13 second truck bone stock that most owners are only getting mid 14's with.
but you need gears... to more easily turn her into a mid to low 13's or better truck.

$3300 seems too high,you should look for better price.
You could pick up a stock LSD for under a $100 if you search (and that's probably better in the snow and ice than a new $500+ DTT)
Gears themselves maybe $400-$450 new or much cheaper if you just snagged a lightly used set of 3.92's from somebody swapping a 4x4 to 4.56
Then $300 - $500 an axle labor would be more in line including bearings seals, fluids etc.(shop around)
and once again it would be an ET shave that you created by your own actions.
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Yupp RandTX is probably gonna be the first qc in the 11s
Naw Ricky will probably beat me to it.
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but you need gears... to more easily turn her into a mid to low 13's or better truck.

$3300 seems too high,you should look for better price.
You could pick up a stock LSD for under a $100 if you search (and that's probably better in the snow and ice than a new $500+ DTT)
Gears themselves maybe $400-$450 new or much cheaper if you just snagged a lightly used set of 3.92's from somebody swapping a 4x4 to 4.56
Then $300 - $500 an axle labor would be more in line including bearings seals, fluids etc.(shop around)
and once again it would be an ET shave that you created by your own actions.

I'm already a Mid/Low 13 second Truck,
I'm racing at altitude in the heat (usually 3500' DA)
converted at DragTimes my best run is actually 13.4/101
So on a cool Texas Winter evening near sea level I would be about 4 tenths quicker than running mid summer here.

Your prices dont apply to me, I'm not in Texas,
Everything (including labor) is twice as much in Canada.
I buy my NEW gears/lockers from my usual local source, that also installs them.
...its the only way to have them fully warranteed/guaranteed for parts and install if something goes.

and yes I've needed that warranty on more than one occasion.

I put together a package at moes for $1100 (Front and Rear Gears,master install kits and a DTT)
but its still at least $1500 to install (locally) and they wont warranty them if they didn't supply them.
(I've ran a DTT in the Winter, with a 4WD it's a non issue and works as well as a factory LSD)

Although this is my first track truck,
I've been building up offroad rigs for over 20 years,
Mostly Jeeps, on 37"+ TSL Super Swampers and re-geared them appropriately , often used Detroit or ARB air lockers.


I'm may still be a track rookie compared to many, but in just this past year I've accumulated over 250 time slips with my 10' Ram.
...and that's a short season here with a track that only runs May-Sept.

I'll have my 4.56's eventually, and a low 13 slip
...or for $500 I could just spray a 100 shot and have 12's
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Actually I was referring to in the same air, and real times not corrected. ie heading towards a 12 sec truck in better air.
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I'll get there eventually ,
...just hope the trans holds out long enough to get me there


LT's are next on my Christmas list
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