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Stay in until retirement, the benefits alone are worth it. 4 57.14%
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:05 PM
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Wow, that is a tough decision.

I attempted to enlist when I was younger and due to medical conditions I wasn't even aware of I was denied. I look back on it and am sure the government made the wrong decision. There seems to be a part of my life and dedication to my country I was denied.

That is one regret you will never have to make.

There are quite a few things I noticed reading over the posts that should probably be taken into consideration. Due to the future withdrawals there is going to be an increased influx into the job community that is already struggling at best.

I'm not a gambling man but your situation does pose some paradoxes. To leave now and take your chances in a struggling economy could in fact be a detriment to your situation. Then on the other hand, the 80k is a sure thing at this time. No gamble.

If you're interested in the big picture, then I'd say that the 80k is minimal if the military is matching your savings exponentially. That being said...if you're paid a penny the first day of work and it's doubled every day for the next 30, then $10,737,418.24 using the equation of 0.01x2^30 is the result.

That would indicate that your decision isn't based on the cash value at this time.

Therefore I believe that you're skirting around the personal aspects of your situation. The military has structure and your looking for Meghan or someone else to make the decision for you may be an indication of your desire to maintain that structure. And on a personal note, if you truly desire the structure of the military, there may be other options, or considerations that can be made.

Are there any other branches of the military that would accommodate you and accept your current status with the possibility of future promotion?

It's all too inherent in our nature to become complacent. However, there is also the desire to investigate the unknown.

Maybe it would help to get a professional opinion of your particular personality. I agree that it is a potentially life altering decision and since you brought it to our attention, my advise is to leave no stone unturned.

I may have approached your situation from an alternative view of the others, but it's just my alternative view.

(that was purely speculation and not intended to offend you if it was worded incorrectly)
Well you didnt offend me...but I think you took part of it too seriously.

The comment about my wife making the call was a joke .

I am simply looking for opinions, informed or not, on what my next move should be. Sometimes, you never know who will chime in. Ultimately the choice will have to be mine and I will have to either love it or live with it.

I am somewhat institutionalized. Much like a prisoner being released after extended sentence. I have become accustomed to doing things with a degree of certainty. Now that certainty could be gone. It's scary.

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I know nothing of service life so that I cannot comment. What does appear is that you have a wonderful wife and that you love each other dearly, God bless you both for that. What does concern me is not your financial situation because you seem to have enough about you to make a success what ever choice you make, but your health as well as your wife's and how you take care of that is of major importance at 27 and what you say about your body and your mind probably needs to be looked at independently by outside specialist. I will add that some times fate helps makes decisions for us so don't worry to much.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:11 PM
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Well you didnt offend me...but I think you took part of it too seriously.

The comment about my wife making the call was a joke .

I am simply looking for opinions, informed or not, on what my next move should be. Sometimes, you never know who will chime in. Ultimately the choice will have to be mine and I will have to either love it or live with it.

I am somewhat institutionalized. Much like a prisoner being released after extended sentence. I have become accustomed to doing things with a degree of certainty. Now that certainty could be gone. It's scary.
That's basically what I was implying, however you said it some what more eloquently.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:52 PM
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The trouble with life nothing is ever certain, the unexpected happens when you least expect it. I think that their maybe a little entrepreneur in you is trying get out. I have not been employed by any company directly since I was 18, somehow I have survived not sure how but I have always had some blind instinct and the man upstairs has always guided me even if I did't understand at the time.
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Questions that I have is how much have you ben planning if you do deceide to GTFO ? I had a plan that I was going right to school to finish my degree as soon as I got out and I followed that plan. Because I was old I worked full time and went to school full time but it took me almost 5 full years to finish school. What sucked was my two year degree I stayed in the AF to finish got me almost nothing when it came time to go to "real" school on the outside. Before I did anything I would sit down with my wife (even if it is over the internet) and make a list of pro's and con's to each decision and be sure to put a happy or unhappy by each pro or con. My total hearing loss in my left ear is worth $110.00 per mont after almost 30 years.. So I would get as much current info on what you can expect out of your VA disibility.
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I already knew what I was going to vote but after reading your wifes' response, I am even more sure you should run out your 20. You're 1/3rd there and I think overall its your best bet. Besides, the civilian world sucks!
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I think you should stay. Because when your back on home soil, you really put a cramp in my invasion plans!

Only you know your whole situation and feelings. If you love what you do and it's basically a sure thing, you have to take that into consideration. If you wake up every morning and dread going to work, that is something to consider as well.

16 years ago I left a good paying Federal Government job that I had 10 years into. Had I stayed, I would be eligible for full pension in 4 years from today. Instead, I am finally making the same wage I was making 16 years ago, but have to work 60+ hours per week to get it and figure I have 20 years of work before I can retire. Financially it was a terrible move, but I was at the point where every morning I dreaded going to work; today I look forward to each and every day. If I had to do it all over again, I would......under the same circumstances.

As was suggested, make a list of all the pros and cons. Something about putting it on paper can add clarity to the situation and aid in the decision making process. Your wife is a Gem. You will be able to make the decision without undue stress from your spouse and that will allow you to make that decision based on merits/demerits.

I wish you all the success in the world in which ever route you decide on, and will pray the Lord provides you with the calmness and clarity to make the right decision for you.
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I always did things on the spur of the moment, crazy way to go through life

I do on occasion have a good idea, although it takes $$$

10 years ago i worked for the State of California & i was always going to accident sites, the gas or diesel spilled on the ground always found its way to the roads Storm Drains & then down into the ground or even worse into brooks & streams.
EPA, Fish & Wildlife, & every government agency that you can think of got involved.
There are companies that specialize in environmental cleanup, some just have a chemical specialist with a 1 ton van & a flat bed truck or 2 with 55 gallon drums to haul the contaminated material away to a Hazardous Materials Dump, some have more equipment like a back hoe, etc.
There is very good money in that business

Another very profitable business is shredding tires, you just need a couple of semi trailers & a semi tractor to haul the tires to a central location where you have a tire shredding machine to grind up tires for several applications, like rubberized asphalt, etc

http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/mate...ires/basic.htm

stay in the Military, put your money to work, if the Military does not look promising, run the business that you already started
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Very interesting thread....I read through all the responses and your wifes email almost brought a tear to my eye...ok it did! REMEMBER one thing if nothing else.....your family and their support is all that matters in life and at the end of the day. That is your RICHES...the money you have saved is the bonus. With your health, hard to make rank etc...the time is now IMHO to part ways. YOU SERVED with pride, you wrote ALL of us Americans a blank check to serve our country, and you did and we ALL THANK YOU for what you have done thus far. Now is the time to go enjoy your wife and your time with her. Adopt some kids and live the American dream...

I was in the Navy, was offered $60k to re-enlist when my 8 yrs were up. I thought seriously about the cash...then went outside looked at my house, my wife my kids and made the best decision I ever made, I GTFO. Your a smart guy get everything that is due to you medically, financially and bow out.

Never let the money or the retirement money cloud your feelings and desires, you will be fine in the civilian world. I wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide.

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