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Old 11-08-2012, 10:44 AM
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Well I searched the forum and found no answers for the 3rd gen rams.

Well my dad noticed that my front passenger side tire is cupping pretty bad on the outside of the tire. I had an alignment probably a month ago after i cranked my torsion bars but I have a feeling there might be something with my suspension worn out. I am going to rotate my tires to see if it continues to do it but does anyone have any idea what might be worn out if it continues? I was thinking possibly shocks but I honestly have no idea.

FWI my tires are 295/60/20 and only seems to be cupping on the passenger side. And I'm pretty sure their stock tires....
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:54 AM
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How often and in what pattern are you rotating your tires? Did you get a printout of the before and after alignment specs? Any worthwhile alignment man should have done a pre-alignment inspection to check fo faulty steering and suspension components.
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How often and in what pattern are you rotating your tires? Did you get a printout of the before and after alignment specs? Any worthwhile alignment man should have done a pre-alignment inspection to check for faulty steering and suspension components.
Honestly I never had a schedule for rotating them. This would be the first one I've done and I was going to do front to back-back to front with no criss-crossing. It was my buddy that works at Dobb's and he did give me a printout(which I lost lol) and he didn't say anything about any components being bad. I watched him and everything was in the green and equal on both sides.
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Ok. Since the acceptable camber range includes positive camber angles, this could be causing the wear pattern along with the toe-in being set to the max acceptable limit. If the tires are non-directional, I strongly recommend a crossing the front tires to the rear and bringing the rear straight forward. This will help counter the wear pattern established on the front.
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got this from Kal tire...

Cupping/Scalloping

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What's Happening
The tire is not tracking straight down the highway, but is bouncing sideways during parts of its rotation. It may be wobbling on the axle or rim. On trailers, the condition is aggravated by running empty. Because of the light load, the trailer begins to bounce, creating more irregular wear, which creates more bouncing, and so forth. The bouncing can create vehicle suspension component wear.

Probable Causes
loose wheel bearings
mismounted tire/ wheel assembly
out of balance wheel assembly
tread design/ tire design
worn bearings, shocks, springs or other suspension components
mismatched duals
inconsistent dual inflation (10 PSI or greater)
Corrective Action
Tighten wheel bearings. Check wheel assembly for proper mounting of tire on wheel (or rim) and for proper mounting of axle. If you have many tires of the same tire brand and tread design with cupping/scallop wear, test other tire brands, tire series or tread designs. Match duals by the tire brand, size and series (differences no more than 1/4" in overall diameter). Inflate tires to fleet standard.

What to do with the tire
Continue to run tire. When worn area reaches tread wear indicators, have Kal Tire retread the tire.
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If you read what RamTech posted

move your right front to the left rear
move your left front to the right rear
then move both rear tires directly forward

If you have a DISCOUNT TIRE or AMERICAN TIRE store near you
call them & ask if the have a
HUNTER ROAD FORCE BALANCE MACHINE at the store
it took care of my unusual wear pattern, of course the tires were rotated too
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Ok. I just switch the front to back and vice versa today so I'll just switch the back two tomorrow and get them balanced again. I'll have whoever does it look for some unusual wear in the suspension parts. Thanks a lot y'all!
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Ok I'm new to forums in general so forgive me IF I I am posting this in the wrong place. I bought my 2011 RAM in January with 23000 500 miles on it.I took it to the local Ram dealership for an oil change and tire rotation a couple of days ago and when I picked it up and was on my way home I noticed what felt like friction or something rubbing slightly together when I was slowing down for a stop sign or stop light right around 15 or 20 miles an hour.I took it back to the dealer and spoke with the service department and they told me that the Tech who rotated my tires felt the same thing after he rotated them and took it out for a test drive. They told me it was tire cupping. Now before they rotated the tires I never noticed this friction and my truck drove without any vibration in the steering wheel or bouncing going down the road. My tires have plenty of tread left on them although I did notice the front tires were worn slightly more than the rear tires before they rotated them. Is there something else that can be causing this friction sound or feel at 15 or 20 miles an hour? I should point out that they also did a inspection of my truck and found the brakes and whatever else they checked we're all okay.I looked up tire cupping on the Internet and saw pictures of tires with cupping but they are all had worn spots in the middle of the tires. My tires don't look anything like those. Can they still be cupping? Is the service dept just telling me this to make me go away. I did not buy my truck from them but that shouldn't have anything to do with it. Anyone have any suggestions or advice? Perhaps take it to a different Ram dealer?
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