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Old 11-16-2012, 11:24 AM
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I'm just curious...I've been on this forum for about a year now since I bough my '12 Express...November 8th purchase date. I certainly don't spend all my time on this forum here, nor have I read all the posts. Still, I can't recall any catastrophic failure posts fitting this sceanario. And Ram Tech, I'm not doubting what you're reporting here. I'm just thinking back if we've had any similar engine failures of this magnitude to follow a time line.
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According to the rep, this is a new problem that is recently began rearing its head.
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As much as I would like to get a new engine under warranty, I don't want someone hacking up my truck to install it. So I hope this turns out to be nothing.

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Well, if it's what we've been seeing for a while on the LXs with the 5.7L, then it's the eagle engines with a few older ones thrown in for good measure. The timing chain tensioner spring fails causing the timing chain to hit the slider which will basically break the slider into several pieces and sometimes crack the thrust plate. It has happened on a few stock vehicles, but typically it's seen with mildly modified engines. The basic fix is to swap in a 6.1L thrust plate and there will be no issues. You can tell the difference between the 6.1L thrust plate because it's black and the 5.7L one is silver/grey. Just the fix that the LX guys have been doing for the past few years.

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With the PENTASTAR 3.7-liter V-6 in some vehicles being reported by websites as having a badly designed head
one site reads, 7500 2012 Jeeps sitting in dealerships with a bad head

another site reads, 1,300 new Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram brand vehicles are in Chrysler dealerships awaiting maintenance because of defective cylinder heads

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then the other issue with 667 V-6 engines being recalled
CHRYSLER IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2012 CHRYSLER VEHICLES, INCLUDING 200 AND TOWN AND COUNTRY MODELS, DODGE VEHICLES, INCLUDING CHARGER, DURANGO, GRAND CARAVAN AND JOURNEY MODELS AND JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FROM AUGUST 31, 2011, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 13, 2011, THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH 3.6L ENGINES. THESE ENGINES MAY EXPERIENCE CONNECTING ROD BEARING FAILURE DUE TO DEBRIS INSIDE THE ENGINE BLOCK.

Consequences:
CONNECTING ROD FAILURE MAY LEAD TO ENGINE SEIZURE WHICH MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2012/...#ixzz2CPOCciB3

you can bet Chrysler will be all over any other problems quickly
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Kurtis, this makes sense to me because the Eagle is what I would call "newer" as the rep did. For those who don't know, the Eagle is the current generation of Hemi engines that came out in 2009.
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With the PENTASTAR 3.7-liter V-6 in some vehicles being reported by websites as having a badly designed head
one site reads, 7500 2012 Jeeps sitting in dealerships with a bad head

another site reads, 1,300 new Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram brand vehicles are in Chrysler dealerships awaiting maintenance because of defective cylinder heads

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Consequences:
CONNECTING ROD FAILURE MAY LEAD TO ENGINE SEIZURE WHICH MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2012/...#ixzz2CPOCciB3

you can bet Chrysler will be all over any other problems quickly

I can confirm the 3.6 Pentastar head issue. It typically effects the even numbered cylinders and causes codes P0300, P0302, P0304, and P0306 to be set in the PCM and causes some rough running.
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that would explain what Ravenx mentioned on a Challenger site, about the HEMI failure
18 vehicles, all had been slightly modified, had this failure
they were discussing if each of these engines were in the MDS mode when it happened, or if was more random
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you think chrysler would issue a recall and fix the problem rather than replace engines.

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Replacing the engine is the only option when there's a hole in the block. From what I understand this failure is happening to stock engines as well and if this is indeed the case, a recall may very well be issued to install a redesigned part. At this point, it's impossible to say what, if anything, will happen.
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