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Old 01-01-2013, 03:39 PM
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Wet plugs don't like to fire, so pouring in fuel is a useless effort. Did this mechanic check fuel volume as well as the pressure? Having a spark doesn't mean the spark is strong enough to fire the air/fuel mixture. Are you getting a strong blue spark kernel with a plug in the wire while cranking? You need to clean and dry the plugs or install a fresh set and then verify your spark.
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New plugs, nada..

Again, verified spark off coil by pulling wire from dist and hooking directly to a plug, laid on header, had wife crank over.. white arc, not blue.

Either way, as much as I hate guessing and testing.. I have a coil and crank sensor on the way.

I mean.. really, what else could it be?
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:11 AM
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Since the arc isn't blue, I'm liking the coil for this problem. I would try it first, before fighting with the CKP sensor.
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I had a Jeep do something very similar. Drove me nuts for weeks. It ended up being an undervoltage at the coil. Hope this helps.
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you need a new coil, this has happened to me plenty of times, driving down the road and all of a sudden, back fire and you loose power. i started carrying spare coils on my truck cause they go out so frequently, piss pour design on dodge"s part by puttin them next to the exhaust manifold, they get to hot and they eventualy burn up, but i am telling you, put a new coil on there and it will fire right up.
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thanks for the input everybody, will report back when new coil arrives.
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Can you make the dipstick burn with a butane lighter? (or match, whatever) If so, it's not simply flooded, but drenched. pull plugs, dry/rinse/ them out with ether, or some other good dryout solvent,(warm them up for better evaporation of fuel) spin eng for 30 seconds with starter, no plugs, throttle to the floor (clear eng position for ECU, doesn't recieve fuel in this position) change oil, put plugs in, and start. (I have successfully cheated on this, pulling 4 in order of the firing order, getting 4 in a row to fire clean will enable rpms to clear the other cylinders, ) I see you say you have good spark, so I wouldn't bother with changing coil, however, it IS winter, and you may have a worn timing set, and jumped a tooth or two, or ten, so if you go thru clear eng mode, and nothing but an occasional wimpy backfire, I would suggest a worn timing set which simply jumped time(seems the only time timing chains jump up here where I live is always when it's cold outside). Eccch.
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Alright,, coil came in today..

Went out to remove the old one, laughed when I saw the crusty phillips hardware holding it on..

Not enough room to swing a hammer on my impact, of course didnt come out with a good screwdriver..

Cutoff wheel on dremel, cut the heads off, got the rest with vicegrips.

Installed new coil with hex hardware.

Grabbed battery off charger and reinstalled in truck.. turned key with pedal to the floor (give it more of a shot,, knew it was flooded allready) ..

And it actually came to life!

Buttoned everything up and drove it around town.. motor is running MUCH smoother that is has in a long time, and it is also much quieter? dont know where that comes into play, but the motor itself just makes much less noise.

thanks for all the input everybody,, what a relief to hear it run again.
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These trucks aren't carburated so I don't get how it could be flooded.

Whats the brand of the coil you bought? Never had any luck with any except from Mopar or Accel.
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everytime you start your truck, the injectors shoot in a preset amount of fuel to start the engine.. ..and if it doesnt start, there is unburnt fuel that was injected in. just a small amount the first time you turned the key. but times this by hours of messing around trying to figure out the issue.. .... shes flooded.

cranking with the pedal to the floor tells the computer to NOT inject fuel.

In my experience, injected vehicles are MUCH easier to flood then carb'd. from working on cars and bikes. just because the wrong jab of throttle when the motor is not perfectly happy can do it.

Brand of coil? Have no idea, i'd have to look, bought the cheapest unit I could find. Has a year warranty and cost me a whopping $13 shipped to my door.

The way I see it, while in guess and test mode, I dont want to spend out the nose for parts that may be good.

So now if i get a year out of that coil i'll be surprised, but for $13.. I can't buy dinner for the family with that.. Yet alone put enough gas in the truck to get to dinner .

When it does fail.,, a quality unit will be installed, now that the issue has been cornered.

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