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Ok i will pm him. The rockers are held in just by the valve spring tension. Because one side is on the hydraulic tensioner then the other end is on the valve while the cam rides on the center of the rocker on top of a roller. If you seen a pic you would see what I mean
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Thinking out loud - Is it possible that there is insufficient oil pressure at the cam shaft? If something happened during assembly that caused a restriction in the oil pressure, then the lashers would not receive the pressure they require to maintain proper valve adjustment. This condition could affect 1 head, while the other is fine....however, if there was global loss of pressure, then both heads would have severe valve lift issues, and might cause the symptoms you are witnessing.

The condition is strange enough to think outside the normal.
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Found the problem. Its worse then anyone thought ill go into detail later...I'm goin to price a new motor
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That doesn't sound good at all.

I am rebuilding my 4.7 right now. Parts and machine work is coming in at $1550.
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This does not sound good.
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ok the deal i this i pulled the passenger head off again to replace the valves that had stuck open i thought they were bent. as i moved the gear that goes on the camshaft i noticed some metal shaving on it. so i went over and looked at the cam...... the little nub on the head of the cam shaft was stripped off. i then was pissed threw my phone and a few other things.... then i started lookin the rest of the head over. as i turned the cam over there were 3 more valves that stuck open and wouldnt close and they were hitting on the side head. so im guessing the heads are warped. a new 4.7 is $4000 and im not thinking that will work. im probably just gonna get a set of heads new cams and a new intake. im pretty sure im gonna order them from airram.com and if there are any tips on this mod just let me know thanks everyone for your input it was appreciated very much
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The only thing I can think of that would cause this lack of oil in the head. Any chance the oil gallery got plugged with the new gasket? Is it possible the other side has a similar issue?

No matter the cause, this really sucks!
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Before you get too bummed out and drop a bunch of coin, get some prices and do some research on getting your stuff rebuilt locally. My machine shop only charged me $580 to rebuild my heads.

Any clues as to what caused the damage or do you think it was like that before and you misdiagnosed the head gasket?
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im not sure what caused this the only thing i can think of is that the head was warped it just wasnt showing it because it was bolt on. but as soon as i removed the head and changed the gasket they warped and didnt sit on there 100% straight and when i put the truck under a load it made the warped head worse and started to hit valves and stop them while they are open. i am 100% sure it was a head gasket out. i could see the mark on the head and the gasket was clearly out. i was planning on spending the money for the HO parts but i didnt expect it to happen so soon. i already have a set of JBC shorty headers ordered and am getting ready to order new CNC ported heads and the 2011 intake from www.airram.com. i will get some pictures up tomorrow of the cam and how everything looks
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Sucks man. If you need new head I'd definitely go all out and get the best ones there are (from airram). You're truck will be blowing away hemi's in no time . I'd change the cams too to take advantage of the heads...

Make sure the bottom end is good before reassembling...
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