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Old 03-09-2012, 10:53 AM
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Coils are better for ride quality and articulation but for load carrying, that's isn't the best design.
The coils on the 1500 are fine up to a point... but I don't see no coils on anything heavy duty..... unless you count the ones on railcars
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Rail cars are surely heavy duty.

Just because other manufacturers don't use it doesn't mean it's not good. The old ford I beams were coil (I understand they were on the front) but they were CRAZY heavy duty.

My truck is I think rated to haul 1,650 lb or something like that, I've put a ton in it and it feels the same as my other trucks did with a ton in them...

One of the things I like best about getting away from leafs is that leafs can break when over loaded, coils can't. I snapped a leaf on my old ford by putting a ton in the bed (1/4 ton truck). It snapped a leaf on the overload spring edge. Coils will just bottom out.

I do understand you shouldn't overload....I just have noticed no difference in payload with leafs vs coils.
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Ya leafs have their short coming and they're the oldest technology around but there's a reason they dont use coils on 2500, 3500, 4500s etc.

Im open minded, but I would need some convincing to go with a HD truck with coils.

Now on a Jeep, coils are the Sh^t!
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I just towed my 19' bassboat a couple times last week for about 150 miles total so I think I had something to add here. The total weight of it is right around 3600# (boat 1500, engine 480, batts 400, trailer 600, equipment 400, gas 200). Until I bought this truck I towed the boat with an S10, Trailblazer and a ram 2500. This truck is the best of the four with the trailblazer running second. Its not that the 2500 didn't perform well, it actually performed too well. It drug the boat rather than towed it if that makes sense. The trailblazer was slightly underpowered but the vehicle handled the boat well. When towing you need some sort of buffer and stiff springs are not the answer. My trailer would rattle and make all kinds of noise behind that 2500 and the boat would even shift back off the stanchion , there was no give just bounce. The 1500 feels extremely stable like the boat's not back there but the trailer is quiet and the boat stays settled. It is possible to go too big. I have club members with 3/4 and even 1 ton trucks and we discussed this at the meeting this week and they stated they are in need of new trailers or extreme maintenance or repairs and believe is directly related to the capacity of the trucks overpowering the load. This was something I hadn't considered until last week.
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Get a 2500 you won't regret it. Especially if you say you like wheeling. Solid Axle for the win
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Good point Fat1, I see your position. With 3600 lbs., a 2500 is definitely overkill.

But when towing a heavy load, I'm not just considering the springs - although that's is where this conversation headed.
~ Brakes are a BIG part of my consideration along with rear differential and overall weight of the tow vehicle and being able to control a trailer in -for instance- high winds.

I guess my perspective is coming from what I do with my truck. I would say if you pull a 5K daycruiser, a 1500 might be perfect for ya. I just see SO many obviously overloaded 1/2 ton trucks out on the road. I would guess a good percentage of them dont even realize or consider that they are overweight..

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Bikenut:

I totally agree with you. It seemed like we were on opposite spectrum's, but I think we were simply talking about different things. My point was that a 1500 with coil springs is not inferior to a 1500 with leaf springs. I agree if you're pulling close to the limit of a 1500 (leaf or coil) you should get the 2500.
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I totally agree with you. It seemed like we were on opposite spectrum's, but I think we were simply talking about different things. My point was that a 1500 with coil springs is not inferior to a 1500 with leaf springs. I agree if you're pulling close to the limit of a 1500 (leaf or coil) you should get the 2500.
Yes sir.
I guess I came off as sounding like coils were bad. Let me take that back Coils are not inferior in the 1500
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who said coils can't break, they have and i owned the "car it broke on'.
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I'm in agreement in regards to the engine size here, I have a 5.9 (360) in my sport and its pretty dinosaur technology. My advice is to purchase something newer that is better balanced with power and economy.
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