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Old 03-22-2012, 03:28 PM
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My truck has always run great ever since i bought it super cheap and replaced the plugs, cap and rotor. Well finally the timing chain broke. Luckily it happened in my garage!

How do i get everything lined back up again? Cam/crank synchronized?

Is it as simple as cam sprocket dot at bottom, crank dot at top?

When they are lined up should the distributor be pointing at #1 plug wire?

Seems like when the cam sprocket is pointed down the distributor points 180 degrees off.

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Oh, this is for a '98 318 c/i

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My truck has always run great ever since i bought it super cheap and replaced the plugs, cap and rotor. Well finally the timing chain broke. Luckily it happened in my garage!

How do i get everything lined back up again? Cam/crank synchronized?

Is it as simple as cam sprocket dot at bottom, crank dot at top?

When they are lined up should the distributor be pointing at #1 plug wire?

Seems like when the cam sprocket is pointed down the distributor points 180 degrees off.

This is my first post, i wish it was for more enjoyable information. LOL

Oh, this is for a '98 318 c/i

Thanks for your help!
Well you're going to want to rotate the crank so either piston number 1 or 5 is at TDC, then you can slap the sprocket on their and the sprocket on the cam and then degree it dot to dot.
When everything is lined up and the number 1 piston is at top dead center then you can install the distributor, the rotor should point at the number 1 that is stamped inside of the distributor.
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Yeah, you pretty much have it, except the timing is 180 out. The cam turns two times for every one revolution of the crank so spin it one more turn and make sure #1 plug/cyl (front D/S) is all the way up. Dot to dot and slide the chain and gears back on.
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Yeah, you pretty much have it, except the timing is 180 out. The cam turns two times for every one revolution of the crank so spin it one more turn and make sure #1 plug/cyl (front D/S) is all the way up. Dot to dot and slide the chain and gears back on.
The weird thing is chrysler has it that the number 5 is TDC when configuring the chain but It's cross plane so when 5 is TDC so is 1. But eitherway.

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Motors get weirder all the time, It used to be that the cam turned one revolution for every two revolutions of the crankshaft, I think I'm gonna crawl into a cave somewhere and stay until things get more like my kind of normal again.... You guys make me feel reeealy old!!!!!!!!!
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Motors get weirder all the time, It used to be that the cam turned one revolution for every two revolutions of the crankshaft, I think I'm gonna crawl into a cave somewhere and stay until things get more like my kind of normal again.... You guys make me feel reeealy old!!!!!!!!!
Well the magnum engines are basically the same as it's older cousin, just that they throw some new stuff on it such as multi port fuel injection and things like that. But it's still 1 cam rev per 2 crank revs, it's basically going to have to stay at for as long as it's 4 stroke, 180 degree per stroke.

Now for these really new engines like in these eco cars, I don't want to know lol....

Even the new hemi engines, I don't know why they bother calling them Hemi's because they aren't truely hemispherical like they were back in the 60's and 70's.
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Wow, thanks for the quick replies.

2 more quick things, the sprockets can only go on one way of course...right?

It seemed like no matter what, if the cam dot was at the bottom then the rotor always pointed 180 degrees away from #1.

Is it as simple as pulling the distributor and turning it 180?

Please tell me yes. LOL

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Wow, thanks for the quick replies.

2 more quick things, the sprockets can only go on one way of course...right?

It seemed like no matter what, if the cam dot was at the bottom then the rotor always pointed 180 degrees away from #1.

Is it as simple as pulling the distributor and turning it 180?

Please tell me yes. LOL

Thanks for all of the help guys(or gals)
No, you can put the sprocket on differently because you can advance or retard timing, generally you do it at the crank. But best to just to dot to dot to avoid the risk of a inop engine.

I believe you should do dot to dot at the top with these engines, I don't remember.
Weight I think it's dot up on crank and dot down on cam.
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The weird thing is chrysler has it that the number 5 is TDC when configuring the chain but It's cross plane so when 5 is TDC so is 1. But eitherway.

So you're a warlock???
No, no. no. If you check out my profile...I was retromodding my 95 ram into a Warlock III (2nd gen). First Gen stopped with the Warlock II in the late 80's.

I wanted a step-side so I started making my own. It's my alter-ego...Mwah ha ha. Poof! (and I'm gone)

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The sprockets should only go on one way. There may be secondary marks on the cam gear if it's after-market to provide for advanced or rEtArdEd timing. The gears should go on the same and the difference is in the position of the cam when mounting the chain on the sprockets.

You can think of it like a clock. If the keyway for the cam were on the top of the gear and the factory dot were at 6 o'clock...the advance setting would be at 7 o'clock as an example. Then the cam gear would go on and turned counter-clockwise to position it at the advanced stage if the cam had a higher duration or lift. Now forget everything I just said so you don't get confused
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No, no. no. If you check out my profile...I was retromodding my 95 ram into a Warlock III (2nd gen). First Gen stopped with the Warlock II in the late 80's.

I wanted a step-side so I started making my own. It's my alter-ego...Mwah ha ha. Poof! (and I'm gone)
oh I see. when I read warlock the first thing that came to my mind was the video game my brother played when we were boys.

I should of thought of the dodge warlock first but it was before my time and I don't see that many driving around.
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