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Old 04-17-2012, 12:01 AM
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I am new to the cummins motors just got a new to me truck with 150 000 miles and it seems super slow. I dont know how fast these things are without a chip. Its a standard and the guy before me must have had a edge in it. He put 4" straight pipe and cold air intake and had all the fancy gauges but no tuner. Is it slow just because its a standard maybe Im expecting too much from this truck? I know the D-max that I have driven in the past were way faster then this truck. It makes about 35psi fuel pressure and runs around 20lbs of boost if im really honking on it. I would be scared to try and pass someone on a 2 lane highway. Maybe I just need a tuner? What would be a normal 0-60 time for one of these trucks stock. Any info would be much appreciated.
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35psi fuel pressure is to high needs to be 17 to 20psi for your VP44 injection pump to live a long life. If you what a little more pep pick up a Diablo sport power puck it is the best bang for the buck performance about $160.00 if you want to go with a lot of power Edge comp or Quadzilla adrenaline.
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What rear do you have in the truck? These things were made for pulling and not drag racing. You can put all the tune you want on it, but if you don't have the right gears, it's just not going to be fast. My 98.5 was a surly beast that could pull a house down and get 24 MPG, but it couldn't get out of it's own way. Just the way it was geared. I've known guys that make them wicked fast, but fuel mileage and low end torque suffer for it.

Bottom line is you can probably get a some more out of it with a tuner, but don't forget your gearing if you want to go fast.

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I am new to the cummins motors just got a new to me truck with 150 000 miles and it seems super slow. * * * It makes about 35psi fuel pressure and runs around 20lbs of boost if im really honking on it.
1st problem, as I've mentioned in other posts, is the piece-of-junk Bosch VP44 injector pump that all 1988.5 thru 2001 ISB Cummins trucks come with -- if it hasn't failed yet, it will. The problem is a poorly designed computer that can't handle heat & vibration. However, the VP44 was upgraded for Frieghtliner as they use the same pump in the "Sprinter" vans sold under their nameplate & also by Dodge & Mercedes. Those vans come with a Mercedes V-6 diesel so the new pump has to be recalibrated for the ISB Cummins & I got mine from Blue Chip Diesel in New Hampshire -- the Dodge dealer does not have / cannot get the upgraded Frieghtliner version.

Next item is that the "lift pump" doesn't need to be putting out but 8-9 psi although 15 psi is better & that's what mine runs -- it's an upgraded replacement for the stock lift pump. An ISB Cummins will run with no lift pump @ all, it just keeps the VP44 injector pump from working as hard to pull fuel from the tank, but higher pressures do not make things better -- it's volume / flow that matters there, not pressure. Given the same size lines/fittings, etc. pressure & flow are diametrically opposed -- when one goes up the other goes down.

Next item is I got the Edge boost elbow for $27 & it "tricks" the wastegate so it opens later & slower, giving you more boost & sooner. Typical is jumping to 28 lbs. of boost then settling down to 25. New "neck" from intercooler hose to intake manifold is next.

I don't know what gearing you've got or which transmission, but my '98.5 with the new top-of-the-line Frieghtliner VP44, boost elbow, free-flowing exhaust I made, K&N air filter in the stock airbox & 4.10 gears will run off & hide from the vast majority of pickups, gasoline or diesel -- most passenger cars too. I didn't buy it to go drag racing, I ordered it for heavy loads & trailer towing, but with no load it'll flat scoot! And after the new pump & boost elbow install I even surprised myself!

Blue Chip also makes a "tuner" that'll give you 100 more HP @ the rear wheels, but that's an $1100 expense I can do without. If I can afford to get it in the future I will, but the truck has plenty of power without it, with fuel prices as high as they are I'm not willing to give away any mileage & it's actually a little better now than when I bought the truck new.
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