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Old 04-26-2012, 03:00 PM
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I just bought a 2012 1500 crew cab 4x4 with 392 gears. According to the Ram website, my ST can tow 10,000 lbs. Now I have always assumed the manufacturers ratings were conservative for liability purposes but I hear a lot of people on this board complaining about their experiences towing half that amount. Now I know there are things you can do to the truck, trailer and hitch to improve towability but my truck's literature says 10,000 period. No asterisks. No "but only if you do or install this that or the other thing". Is Ram full of sheit or what? What's the real deal?

I rarely but occassionally trailer my boat. I have not yet though with the Ram. I haven't weighed the boat but with trailer I'd say all-in maybe 5500 lbs. I had been trailering this boat short distances around town with my 2004 Honda Pilot. No real problems at all doing that. Stops, goes, turns and ramps just fine although according to the Pilot's rating it's grossly overloaded towing this boat. So, I bought the 1500 and now if I am to believe many people I hear on this board I am not much better off with the 1500. Can someone edumacate me?
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I tow a boat much larger than yours (8k lbs with gear and fuel) with a 4.7 and do fine.

Not sure the issue would be with a 3:92 and hemi pulling 10k, other than the suspension sag. There is always TLC for that.
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The new towing standards are higher then it was in 2009
The Standard is all about weight

You have 4WD which is a bit heavier than the 2WD, that extra weight needs to be subtracted from the total weight chart
Then you have the weight in the bed, that needs to also be subtracted
Then the number of passenger weight, is subtracted

2009 towing standard
able to tow 9,150 pounds, subtract extra weight & it comes out to

2009 DODGE RAM_1500 1500 CREW ST, CREW CAB, 4WD, 5-Spd Automatic 545RFE Transmission, 5.7L V8 HEMI MDS VVT Engine:

With 3.92 Axle Ratio Axle Ratio [i] You Can Tow 8500 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) [i] = 6800 lbs
Payload [i] = 1465 lbs
Curb Weight [i] = 5335 lbs
Curb Weight Front/Rear = 3074 lbs/3074 lbs
GAWR Front/Rear [i] = 3900 lbs/3900 lbs
Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) [i] = 14000 lbs
http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehicle_to_weight.jsp remember that was using 2009 standards
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Todays Standards allow more weight, this is the current Standard
http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2012/intro.pdf
it is an INTERACTIVE site, you click on your vehicle & then find your vehicles capability accordingly. under TECHNICAL INFORMATION
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Your truck will EASILY pull that boat! I would Not pull 10K for any distance though even though your rated for it, its right on the limit and that isn't a comfortable place to be. My rule of thumb is to stay right about 80% of max GCWR. Thats with any vehicle
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I just bought a 2012 1500 crew cab 4x4 with 392 gears. According to the Ram website, my ST can tow 10,000 lbs. Now I have always assumed the manufacturers ratings were conservative for liability purposes but I hear a lot of people on this board complaining about their experiences towing half that amount. Now I know there are things you can do to the truck, trailer and hitch to improve towability but my truck's literature says 10,000 period. No asterisks. No "but only if you do or install this that or the other thing". Is Ram full of sheit or what? What's the real deal?

I rarely but occassionally trailer my boat. I have not yet though with the Ram. I haven't weighed the boat but with trailer I'd say all-in maybe 5500 lbs. I had been trailering this boat short distances around town with my 2004 Honda Pilot. No real problems at all doing that. Stops, goes, turns and ramps just fine although according to the Pilot's rating it's grossly overloaded towing this boat. So, I bought the 1500 and now if I am to believe many people I hear on this board I am not much better off with the 1500. Can someone edumacate me?
Unless there is something horribly wrong with your trailer, or the tongue weight is way out of whack, you will hardly even notice it behind your truck. 5500Lbs is barely a warmup run for a Hemi with 3.92 gears.

If you plan on pulling 10K Lbs; well it'll pull it, but I'd be hesitant on suggesting you have the best combination. When you get into that weight class, it is far better to use a 3/4 ton. This is not a matter of what it can do, but more of a matter of what is the right and safe thing to do. The HD trucks are just better equipped to handle the higher weights.

I regularly pull 7K Lbs of trailer behind my Hemi with 3.92 gears. It pulls great, but I would not want to go much farther. Prior to this, I pulled the same trailer with a Ram 2500 Hemi 3.73 gears. I have noticed the difference a light duty truck makes. I am very, very, very particular when it comes to tongue weight, ball and hitch type, level of truck and trailer, trailer brakes....etc, etc. My next Ram will likely be a 2500 again just because it's a better equipped unit for extensive trailer pulling.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I towed a 10,000 pound trailer just today with my Ram 1500 Outdoorsman Quad 4x4 3.92 Hemi ( it is rated to tow 10,050). I wasn't going very far, only about 20 miles, but if I was driving with that load any distance I would have been driving very cautiously. It towed fine, but you could definitely tell you had a good sized load on there. This was with a weight balancing hitch as well, which I think helps a lot.
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