Originally Posted by candy08
Are you sure you drove the other 2 diesels?? I'm in the same boat as you about to upgrade. Friday I also drove a 12 f250 King Ranch, 12 GMC 2500 Denali and 12 Ram 2500 Laramie (no brokeback Laramie)....all were the diesel flavor obviously! Just asking I felt the Ram was my last choice for powertrain, but neck and neck with Ferd on the interior. Ill prolly be going Ferd, want the GMC just for that badass powertrain but I can't get over the horrid interior. What'd you think about the ctd?
Well ill start off with some bullet point cons and pros and explain why i liked the ram better overall.
King ranch F250 Pros:
-Tail Gate System to climb on board
-Steering feel is horrible too soft
-The worst brakes ever!!! A car cut me off during the testdrive and it was far away i had to slam on the brakes to slow the monster down and even doing that it did not seem to slow down fast enough.
-Cheap dash materials
-Ugly and cheap headliner felt like something out of an old grand marquis.
-Ugly fake woodgrain i like the laramies aluminum and wood grain combo better.
-Interior is too Tacky and too busy i felt like i was sitting in a horse
-Suspension felt too soft
-SO SO MPG'S
Sierra Denali Pros:
-Feels like it has more power down low.
-Transmission had less aggressive engagement which i liked.
-Interior quality was better than the fords
-IMO more elegant looking of the bunch
- Quality inside was good though it lacked luxury i could not tell the difference from a regular sierra to the denali version.
-MPG'S were bad
-Worst interior layout out of the 3
-Body panels felt weaker than both dodge and ford.
RAM 2500 LONGHORN Pros:
-Feels the lightest of the bunch
-Body Panels felt the best quality out of the bunch.
-Best handling by far, it has the roughest suspension but that made it handle a lot better and i liked it.
-Felt more capable powertrain wise everything from the transmission to engine feels solid.
-Best interior quality out of the bunch, the dash materials are superior.
-Drives very similar to my ram 1500 and that is a good thing.
-Leather on the ram lasts a long time my 1500's leather is in perfect condition after 70k miles i had a f150 lariat and the leather started to look bad at around 30k miles.
-Best MPG'S out of the bunch i drove them in the same areas the same way and the ram's computer averaged 23 mpgs.
-Best steering feedback out of the bunch
-Best price fully equipped
-Better brakes out of the 3
-A bit of turbo lag
-Felt the less powerful but enough for me im mainly going to be towing my 2 atv's, a yamaha boat, hauling gravel some times etc.
-Noisy engine though i like it others dont
-Worst nav system
-Interior the same as 1500's
i dont know what else is wrong with the ram lol.
In conclusion i think the ram was the best choice for me out of the 3, it makes the jump to a 2500 a breeze since it feels so similar to my 1500 but everything that i hate on my 1500 is gone if i make the jump to the 2500 like the sagging rear end when towing or hauling, the heart breaking hill climb when towing, the horrid mpg's i literally get 10 MPG'S or less when towing with my hemi. I liked the ram because it handled the best of the 3, the sierra and king ranch were both too soft for my taste, i race cars so it might be why i focused on the handling more than the power. Interior felt the nicest out of the bunch as well as far as quality materials.
Originally Posted by Bikenut
I got $9700 off MSRP if that helps. That was with the Chrysler Partners discount plus rebates and incentives. No other negotiation other than them throwing in nerf bars.
It seems that they discount the hemis much more than the cummins even the sales guy said that, if i can walk out the door not paying over 51k on monday ill update my signature by tuesday to a 2500 lol.