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Old 05-21-2012, 02:46 PM
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Default Added Total Load Control Airbags, the result...

Two weeks ago I installed the TLC airbags on my 2010 1500 Sport 4x4. I got the chance to test them out this last weekend. My setup is a Keystone passport 195 with a total weight right around 6k and another 2-300 lbs in the back of the truck. I have a weight distribution hitch and originally had the airlift 1000's in the coil. Prior to TLC I was dissatisfied with the sag I got and the drive was pretty bouncy when going over bumps. The sag was enough that my headlights would blind oncoming traffic and I got flashed pretty regularly.

The TLC bags made a huge difference in my ride this trip. At 25 lbs of pressure, not only did they level the truck but also put a bit of a rake back in the stance. The ride firmed up great and bumps did not bounce the truck at all. The compressor worked great and I never lost any pressure throughout the weekend. If you are considering buying airbags then I would definitely recommend TLC. They were great to work with, shipped fast, and really take pride in their product. I am very satisfied with them... Well worth the money!
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I dont get it

My setup is a 2006 KZ Jag 29JB (GVWR 7000lbs and a hitch weight in the pic below of 947lbs) and all I have is Airlift bags, no wd hitch or anything. I have minimal sag

The hitch weight on yours according to specs is 295lbs but with the added 200-300lbs loaded in the back of the truck, I'm sure is a lot more. But even with a WD hitch and air bags you were still sagging???

Glad you're happy with your setup and TLC appears to make a great product Im not knocking it. I just read on here so many back and forths when it comes to towing. One guy can be pulling a 18' ski boat that in total weighs a few thousand pounds and it's lifting the front wheels off the ground and the next guy is towing a 30' enclosed toy hauler fully loaded and there is no sag and it pulls like a dream. I just dont understand how there can be such huge discrepancies when it comes to towing with the new 1500.


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Here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about: http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=113096

This guy is pulling twice the weight you are and look at the last sentence of his post.

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Default Tow Load!

Hi, you referenced my post about my rock hauling. Yes I did not have any noticeable sqaut!(Wish I took pics now). But was so busy trying to get done for the day. But my load seemed to be well balanced in the dump trailer over the double axles. I had no bounce, or wiggle issues as you might say. But the road was smooth all the way home and pretty flat. The truck certainly noticed the weight there as far as acceleration and I dramactically increased my expected stopping distances at intersections. But as I stated I was very impressed with that weight and how it towed. This was a "one" time incident, as I do have to go back for more rock, but it will be a half load on the dump trailer I rented. Which was just a 4 yard trailer. I will make more trips, this time I made 2, next time probably 3 or 4. But bottom line Dodge has impressed me, first one for me!
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Rick,

Thanks for the review of your TLC system.

Just to confirm, we have never met before and you have no affiliation with TLC...

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So, here are a few pics. I took them with my phone so some of the detail is not easily visible, especially when trying to see the wheel well space with a black truck as the background. The first pic is with no air in the bags. It's certainly not a dangerous sag but it annoyed the hell out of me. It made me feel as if I couldn't see over the hood very well and I didn't like the bounce I would get. If I cranked the WD hitch real tight then I could get a better stance, but not the level I wanted. I've towed a few other trailers, the heaviest being a dump tailer full of sod and dirt and it sat very low. Sorry, no pics with that one.

The second pic is with the TLC airbags inflated. Like I said it is difficult to see the wheel well space with the shadowing and the black truck but you get the idea based on the stance of the truck.

I'm not sure why there is such a wide variance in people's opinions on this topic. This is my second Ram 1500 (had a 2001) and have towed numerous trailers, most being larger then my current one. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely my favorite truck. Every other aspect has been great with it.

As for TLC John's comment, I have no idea who he is. I have never met anyone from TLC other then in phone conversations while I was ordering the product and to swap out a faulty gauge. I bought and installed the system myself and have no ties to any shop or business. I rarely post on the forums but have been lurking for quite some time! After I installed these I wanted to share my experience with the rest of the forum. Hopefully others will find the post beneficial. This was just my experience with my setup. Obviously others will have different opinions...
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rickabev--Congratulations on your investment! The Total Load Control team would like to thank you for your business, and to let you know that if you have any more issues, please do not hesitate to contact us. We apologize for the faulty gauge, sometimes these things happen, but thankfully we got it resolved for you and were able to get you on your way.


Enjoy the freedom you now have, to tow whatever you want to tow (up to your maximum ratings) and have the confidence knowing that YOU have Total Load Control.

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You know, I was thinking about this today and an idea popped into my head. I have a leveling kit on my truck that raises the front about 2 inches. If you think of that as even and you put a load on the back and it drops 4 inches that would be the equivilant of a stock truck dropping 6 inches in the way you would feel/look. This could explain why some people feel like they are sagging quite a bit when in reality it's not the sag so much as the extra 2 or so inches coming from the leveling kit. I'm sure this isn't ground breaking news for most but I never really thought about it before... Any thoughts or am I thinking off base here?
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I know this is probably a dumb question but you have to have a compressor and tank for these to work correct?
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