I have to admit that I've always hated Ford and their trash talkers but I've never heard anything bad about their frames. As a matter of fact I use to hear a lot of bitching from bodyshop owners about how hard it was to straighten their frames on the frame racks. I like Chevy but I can't say the same for the ones I've owned. It use to turn my stomach (and I mean that) when I'd see my beautiful new truck almost bend in half on the mufler/tire racks. But all of this frame crap doesn't matter, the Ram Runner whooped it. What ifs, had it been for this and that almost and which one cost more does not count. Btw, I have one freind with a black 2010 I beleive and one with a brand spanking new silver one and I have picks of the new silver one. It does look pretty well put together too. But it also looks to be heavy and slow and not as sharp as the Ram Runner...the winning truck.